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Cuomo proposes gun limits, minimum wage hike

January 9, 2013

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Billkinner

Jan-11-13 9:07 AM

Consider separation of W.N.Y from Albany & NYC_loose "Debt Burden"_eg. (Rochester or Buffalo)_Jamestown_Westfield_ Smaller Infrastructure_Budget_Debt_Control_Taxes_food for thought_U decide_

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Bandit

Jan-10-13 4:46 PM

Let me continue... If an employee does not care about the life of the business, what happens when the business closes? You might benefit from speaking to a few small business owners, yourself. Really. Seek out a few that have managed to survive for at least five years and ask them what it was like to do their start-up. By the way, my attitude is one of the things that has kept our doors open, so do not knock what you do not know.

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Bandit

Jan-10-13 4:42 PM

Gee momof3 I don't think judeye is arrogant. I frequently disagree with her politics and philosophies, but respect that she is always consistent in her presentation. Besides she is entitled to express her opinion like all U.S. Citizens. She might be outspoken - but not arrogant. She does not lower herself to juvenile name calling either.

When was the last time you re-wrote your resume? An important item that prospective employers look for is "What can I bring to your business". I can hire anyone who just wants a paycheck. If the employee is not motivated to make the business as successful as possible I do not want them. I can not think of any employer who would.

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m0m0f3

Jan-10-13 3:20 PM

Bandit- an actual insult to small business owners everywhere.My responds,this is the risks you take in running your own business. If you do not reward your employees,you do not get good workers.No one wants to work for nothing.Then it is not work, it is volunteering. People do not apply for jobs thinking,how will it affect you,but how it will pay their bills and take care of their family.Workers are not there to line your pockets and fill up your bank account.They are there to work and pay their own bills.Bottom line,you get what you pay for and if you go out of business because you have an attitude like yours,that you are owed.Then the worker moves on to another job and you're left with nothing.

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m0m0f3

Jan-10-13 2:51 PM

@ Bandit, 1 word- arrogant.

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Bandit

Jan-10-13 2:29 PM

Judeye, isn't it kind of silly asking me to define or defend the payroll applications and advancements at those two places? If you really care why don't you pick up the phone and ask THEM? They must know their employees. I will say though that it is kind of funny that at some fast food places they have to put pictures on their cash registers instead of numbers. That and the REGISTER has to tell the employee how much change to refund the customer. Like I said, they know their employees. Next, if I was a CEO and the profits at my corporation increased 135% in four years I would not feel the least bit guilty about $8 Mil per year. Further, if I owned a ton of MickeyD stock I would not chastise the CEO for increasing profits by 135% in four years. By the way I did not check your figures, and am only using them as an illustration.

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judeye

Jan-10-13 8:24 AM

Bandit "Understand first, that minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage. It is the rate we pay to take someone on to train them and make sure they have a the ethics and skill set required to do the proscribed tasks"

If that is true..then tell me why they are not increasing the wages for those who have proven themselves to be good employees at places such as McDonald's and Walmart. It used to be that way. Prove yourself and get a pay increase. Those days seem to be gone. Take a look at the income gap between CEO and workers to see it is now GREED. Pay the workers as little as you can so those at the very top can make even more. Disgusting, immoral..and a real threat to our democracy.

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judeye

Jan-10-13 8:14 AM

"Just think, that Happy Meal will then cost only about $9.00 each for the kids." Oh yes, heaven forbid the CEO and stockholders see a decrease in their profits. Place all of the burden on the working person. What else is new.

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judeye

Jan-10-13 8:11 AM

It is GREED pure and simple why so many workers are paid so little while the CEO are paid so much.

McDonald's for instance saw a 135% INCREASE in profits from 2007 - 2011. The CEO makes over 8 Million a year. How much do you think the average worker makes? Do you think they got pay increases even at half the percentage that the CEO did?

According to Bloomberg mag.."The disparity (in pay) has doubled at McDonald’s Corp. in the last 10 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. At the same time, the company helped pay for lobbying against minimum-wage increases and sought to quash the kind of unionization efforts"

And some defend them on decreasing the number of hours that an employee will work...just so they will not have to cover them with health insurance?

This type of Greed is what we all should be outraged about.

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judeye

Jan-10-13 7:56 AM

Interesting on page B10 of today's paper is an article RESEARCHERS CITE GUN VIOLENCE.. This article states that the US has far more violent deaths than any other wealthy nation, "due in part to the widespread possession of firearms and the practice of storing them in a place that is often unlocked"

Anything we can do to reduce the number of violent deaths I think must be considered. Everyone know that these type of weapons and the clips that can fire off many bullets in a short period of time are not meant for hunting. Far from the only answer, I do believe banning some of the weapons and the type of ammo is one step in the multi prong approach to reducing violence in our country. To this, I agree with our Governor and trying to ban these weapons in our State.

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TheBoss

Jan-10-13 6:29 AM

"...but what benefit is seen in giving more to those with no productive increase?"

Thank you for noticing. This pretty much sums up our entitlement society and all those economic fairness fanatics mentality though doesn't it?

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kcw007

Jan-10-13 12:07 AM

Understand that the current NYS AWB pretty much mirrors the 1994 Federal ABW which sunseted in 04' Under either of those laws, "extended" magazines made prior to the inactment of those bans (AKA: pre-ban magazines) where grandfathered, and can be freely owned & traded by lawful persons. Any NEW (post AWB inactment date) production sold after those dates was limited to 10 rounds, that is still NYS law. What Cuomo wants to do now is to limit "new" production" to seven (7) rounds max, prohibit the retail sale of "pre-ban" units in excess of ten rounds, and maybe even try to confiscate or "register" those pre-bans already out there (understand that full details aren't yet known). The problem is that there are likely millions of those things in NYS already, maybe a 50 million + in the U.S. today, depending on who is counting, and just what is considered to be an "extended" magazine.

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stangv8

Jan-09-13 10:58 PM

New York already limits magazine size to 10 rounds. So, what is the governor talking about? Is he just spouting off to sound good to the low information voter who thinks everyone is NY has access to high capacity magazines?

Why stop at $8.75? Why not just up the minimum wage to $12.00 per hour. Just think, that Happy Meal will then cost only about $9.00 each for the kids.

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kcw007

Jan-09-13 10:40 PM

A raise in the minimum wage represents a non-productive increase in expenses. It's one thing to raise the wage of a worker who has become more productive (read: profitable), but what benefit is seen in giving more to those with no productive increase? Such an expense leaves the business person with only a few options, among those would be: increasing the price of his goods/servcies to his customers, lower the return on his own investment (AKA: reduced profit margine) and laying off "surplus" employees while at the same time whipping the remaining ones in an effort to pick up the slack. If the owner can't do those things, he's out of business.

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Bandit

Jan-09-13 8:14 PM

IRSMART POSTS: "People that complain about minimum wages rising are the people who make more than minimum wage already. You support yourself on those numbers presented. It's blasphemous! How about if you make $10.25 or more, they drop your wage $1.50 to even the field."

Understand first, that minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage. It is the rate we pay to take someone on to train them and make sure they have a the ethics and skill set required to do the proscribed tasks. I will go out on a limb here and bet you have never run your own business. I can tell you there were times when I would have CRAVED making a guaranteeed $7.25 an hour instead of having to dip into savings to survive. Your comments are mis-informed at best and an actual insult to small business owners everywhere. I suggest you take the time to speak to several small business owners and broaden your horizons.

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MikeDavis

Jan-09-13 8:13 PM

Idiot.

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killers

Jan-09-13 8:10 PM

Every time the minimum wage goes up the amount of employees in those jobs are reduced. The end result are less people working, which means higher unemployment, higher welfare roles and the remaining workers have to do more. Oh, that is exactly what the powers to be in New York want, less jobs and higher welfare. It's a winner, good job.

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Christopher

Jan-09-13 8:07 PM

The minimum wage cannot be dealt with on a state by state basis. Nationally, if the minimum wage had kept pace with inflation in the last 20 years, it'd now be over $10 an hour. That's a fact, not conjecture. That being said, if New York acts on the issue on its own, it's just another reason for people to set up shop elsewhere.

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localresident

Jan-09-13 8:04 PM

Proud, you have no idea what you're talking about. Wages in China are rising, and fast at that, to the point where it is no longer making sense for American manufacturers to do business there. If wages in China were static, maybe you'd have a point. But, with the way they work employees, and the iffy quality of their work (still prefer Japanese engineering / production ethics), it won't take long at all to move production back stateside, or at least to the Americas.

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PhilJulian

Jan-09-13 7:36 PM

Cuomo is beginning to show his true liberal colors. On one hand he wants to save lives by controlling gun sales. He then pronounces his strong support for abortions that kill millions of innocent kids every year. So, does he want to save the kids or kill the kids or is he just running for president? He then said he wants a longer school day or a longer school year and he says "don't worry, the state will cover the cost". Well, let's see, where does the state get it's money? At no time did the governor mention reducing the size and cost of government. At no time did he propose any reduction in taxes. He wants to increase the minimum wage but does he care about the small businesses that can't afford to pay more wages? Andrew is a spitting image of his father, the king of liberals.

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localresident

Jan-09-13 7:07 PM

What a joke. Not only does the idiot want to ban "assault rifles", but possibly confiscate them too. but as long as he makes pot legal, the left will be thrilled. Hand over your freedoms one-by-one, and let drugs be your savior. I can't imagine what person would thInk this is actually a good idea. Taking full advantage of media hysteria, for sure. I guess if they would've banned them sooner, we wouldn't have had the WTC taken out. Please let common sense take over in the legislature.

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concerned

Jan-09-13 6:36 PM

Obama care is making companies cut full time workers hours to avoid the cost of health insurance now with rising minimum wages they will cut the number of workers altogether and invest in automation.

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ProudToBeUnAmerican

Jan-09-13 5:59 PM

I say lower the wage for ALL jobs not deemed to be managerial to what the Chinese laborers make, $1.71 a month. Our economic miseries would disappear overnight.

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Mason1

Jan-09-13 5:51 PM

I agree with Bandit. If you have a budget of 200K for payroll you don't raise your payroll budget to match the states requirements. You cut back to stay within the 200K you budgeted for. If an employer has 15 employees at minimum wage and they work 25 hours per week. The diffence the employer will need if he doesn't cut back will be $29250.00 annually and an additional employer match FICA added will be $2237.63 along with increase Workmans Comp rates and Unemployment Insurance rates since they are all calculated on gross payroll. The state will definately make our with all the extra payroll taxes coming in but the employer will lose close to $35,000.00 based on this modest example from his bottom line.

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American

Jan-09-13 5:43 PM

IrSmrt I agree with you on the guns but not minimum wage. Therefore you can have 1.2 of a agree. lol The morons have no clue what to do so the left always thinks more control is better. As always wrong again.

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