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Fredonia: Village buried by excuses

January 14, 2013

In an editorial last week, we made mention of how when the private sector continues to downsize, government does nothing to compensate. In fact, it keeps its staffing at full throttle....

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baseball

Jan-14-13 2:03 AM

One road by the State and 3 roads by the County, that's not qualified as many!Observer serves its own interests!

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Bulldog

Jan-14-13 5:51 AM

They use to have 18 employees.

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judeye

Jan-14-13 7:38 AM

They needed this position. They, as noted by bulldog, are already down several positions. Most of the roads, as noted by baseball, are NOT plowed by anyone other than the village employees. I support the village in this decision.

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DarkStar

Jan-14-13 8:00 AM

My question is, if this extra position is needed for plowing, why isn't it a seasonal position?

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PhilJulian

Jan-14-13 9:10 AM

The very last thing you should do when you are drowning in taxes is to add to the payroll. Has anyone even considered cross training other village employees to help on the few occasions when snow plowing is required? Can you honestly say that all other village employees are busy 40 hours per week? Even overtime is cheaper than putting another employee on the payroll. The day has come when we need to look for options and adding to the payroll is not one of them. What ever happened to quality leadership?

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Dcronlg

Jan-14-13 9:48 AM

It appears Phil, that quality leadership is being exercised by the DPW and yet again, obviously NOT by the clueless OBSERVER board, who believe "tax" is a dirty four letter word (hint, O' Clueless OBSERVER board: T-A-X, 1-2-3...)

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baseball

Jan-14-13 10:06 AM

Hey Phil, The Village tax rate is NOT that high, its actually decent, its the School, County and A joke of a Town tax that are out of control!

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localresident

Jan-14-13 11:34 AM

"It appears Phil, that quality leadership is being exercised by the DPW..."

How? Because they're hiring more people instead of learning how to do the same job with less? What the h e l l? The current crew is plenty.

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joechris

Jan-14-13 12:27 PM

IT amazes me the ignorance of the observer.In the last six years the fredonia D.P.W has been cut six fulltime positions.The observer is saying the hiring of these two needed employees are a tax burden.Here is a little newsflash.The village tax has stayed the same for a couple years.Also it has gone up regardless of the six employees that have not been replaced.Without these two new employees being hired.The D.P.W didn't have enough guys to run all of the equipment.The last few years the sidewalks haven't been getting plowed, do to lack of man power.If the village dosen't clean the sidewalks and someone were hit while walking in the road,a lawsuit would be a far greater expense then hiring two employees.I guess the observer can't see passed their hatred of public employees,imagine that!!!!

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Marcia

Jan-14-13 12:31 PM

Yes, Phil, I'm sure the clerical staff could get out there and help plow those roads.

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joechris

Jan-14-13 12:32 PM

Actually bulldog it was 19 employees.

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Christopher

Jan-14-13 1:48 PM

Newsflash; The Observer makes this the subject of an Editorial comment, yet says or asks nothing about an issue I raised concerning Fredonia's recent water woes and whether their water bill from Dunkirk is monthly or quarterly. If in fact it's monthly, where's the investigation, the FOI requests? If in fact Fredonia is billed monthly, whoever pays and approves those bills was shelling out more that $30,000 a month more than usual for water, and didn't know it!!? Certain members of the board want less hiring yet don't have a concern for that issue? Were village officials lying about the incident, and isn't that an incident or concern in itself? By the way,the FDPW has been shortstaffed for a LONG time, and these 2 people aren't even half that shortage, but it'll help.

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bulldog10

Jan-14-13 2:50 PM

Snow removal like any job depends on how good your employees are. Some employees work twice as hard as others. Some employees like to call in sick when there is work to do. The fact is it hasn't snowed that hard this year and part time employees would be a better way to go. However that is not what the union would want to hear.

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DKexpat

Jan-14-13 5:07 PM

Am I the first to think it's a snow job?

:-)

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localresident

Jan-14-13 6:58 PM

Marcia, they'd probably do a better job of it....

But I will say, Fredonia plows it's streets better than Dunkirk, whom it seems, has everyone call in sick when it snows.

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localresident

Jan-14-13 9:01 PM

Christopher, agreed on the water issue. Things are being hidden that the council for sure knew ahead of time. However, from what I have hear Asa fly on the wall, it's a supply issue (they ran out of something for no good reason), not a staffing problem.

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Chuck392

Jan-14-13 9:26 PM

"In an editorial last week, we made mention of how when the private sector continues to downsize, government does nothing to compensate. In fact, it keeps its staffing at full throttle."

There are local municipalities that have downsized their DPW over the years, some by as much as 50%.

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Christopher

Jan-14-13 9:31 PM

Fredonia's DPW, including the last 2 hires, is downsized from a few years ago by a third. They've also cut one job at the water plant.

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joechris

Jan-15-13 12:25 AM

Hate to enlighten you on your ridculous point of view BULLDOG10.The village already found out that they can't keep people for $7.50 an hour.So this is not just about snow removal.THESE two new employees will be utilized year round.Blacktop,stormdrainage,parks,watermain work,just to name a few.I'll tell you what,next summer when the village is looking for seasonal workers you should apply.On that nice hot 90 degree day when you hand throw 15 ton of 300 degree blacktop in a day. I would be interested to hear your opinion then.OH I forgot you're prabably one of those awesome workers that you mentioned.My guess is you wouldn't last a week at 7.50 an hour.Actually you sound like a typical anti-union blowhard.SO TYPICAL, I bet you don't even have a 9 to 5 job.

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bulldog10

Jan-15-13 6:14 AM

Your a man joechris

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Marcia

Jan-15-13 8:45 AM

local resident, actually the reason the unemployment rate remains as high as it has is because of the decline in public sector jobs.From the LA Times: The private sector is slowly climbing its back way from the Great Recession, adding 155,000 jobs in December, but the public sector is continuing its long employment slide, making it the worst few years for government employees in recent memory.

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baseball

Jan-16-13 10:35 AM

Nothing broke at the water plant---THEY ran out of chemical supplies! Human error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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localresident

Jan-17-13 11:32 PM

Baseball nailed it. No undermanning here. Simply human error. Noone watching the pot while it boils.

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localresident

Jan-17-13 11:40 PM

Marcia, public jobs should NEVER EVER drive the jobs market, period. Are you telling me that the people that pay taxes should be happy that while their opportunities diminish (or at least don't increase), they should be HAPPY that they have more reasons to pay higher taxes? Public employment should be a model how to do more with less, not the other way around. Sadly, in NY, that is the rule. Remember how the tollbooth attendants near retirement would take all the overtime they could in the last 3 years so they could jack their retirement pensions up, thus getting yearly pensions close to six figures? Of course you don't. And, where did they retire? NOT NY, that's for effing sure. They went south.

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