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Flu season in full swing

January 15, 2013

It is going to be a long winter when it comes to the flu season....

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Marcia

Jan-15-13 8:48 AM

Good advice. Now if all employers provided paid sick leave for their employees so they could afford to stay home. It would actually benefit the employer, because they wouldn't be spreading their germs and infecting the other employees. The Observer should also advocate for this.

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DarkStar

Jan-15-13 9:46 AM

Marcia,

And if employees didn't abuse paid sick days more companies would do it but we all know that's not going to happen.

Where I work they don't give paid sick time, but give a personal day for perfect attendance each quarter and fewer then 20% of the people are awarded.

Also despite having one of the most lenient attendance policies at least 40% are within a point or two of termination, and tend to stay at that level (as points come off they call off.)

It's been my experience, working at many difference places over the years, that most call offs aren't due to illnesses or injuries.

Ironically, the only people here who complain about "not being able to afford to stay home when I'm sick because we don't get paid sick days" are also the ones who call off to go to a party, golfing, concert, etc...

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Dcronlg

Jan-15-13 10:55 AM

DarkStar, the rest of the world doesn't behave like your little corner of your room. Categorically, sick days aren't "abused", each and every company has their own policy (and rationale for said policy)and Marcia has an entirely valid point.

I worked for a company where the gave every employee 14 days pf Paid Time Off (PTO). PTO could be used however you wanted: sick days, vacation, etc -- no questions asked. Anything above and beyond was at the employee's manager discretion to approve. in short, they treated their employees are adults and professionals at that. Any abuse? HR reported none. Where quarterly productivity, sales goals met? Yup.

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DarkStar

Jan-15-13 12:27 PM

" the rest of the world doesn't behave like your little corner of your room"

So your saying that it works like your little corner of your room and not might? lol!

I worked at companies ranging from small family owned businesses to large mutli billion dollar companies and everyplace I've worked in this area has seen sicktime abused whether they offered PTO or not (I can't remember if it was an issue where I worked in Cocoa Beach or not, although I only lived/worked there for a few months.)

Also I know people in most, if not all, of the companies in the area and most of those whom I've had discussions about sicktime with claim that they have the same issues where they work.

Ironically of the few who have denied that it's abused where they work most are said to abuse sicktime by others who work with them. lol!

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DarkStar

Jan-15-13 12:31 PM

Of course, it's also been my experience that in general the lower down the ladder within a company a person is the more likely they are to abuse sicktime.

Although that isn't to say that I haven't seen supervisors or managers who abuse it as well.

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DarkStar

Jan-15-13 12:31 PM

That should read:

"So your saying that it works like your little corner of your room and not mine?"

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Marcia

Jan-15-13 12:36 PM

I have a generous sick leave policy, and use maybe two or three a year. Most of my co-workers are the same. We are allowed, so we bank it for catastrophic illnesses or accidents. If you treat people respectfully and like mature adults most rise to the occasion. Unfortunately, many people do not have that, and if they are parents, they must also stay home when their children get sick, so it is difficult to not use this time. Employers should realize that most people do have families and lives, too. We shouldn't have Chinese style sweatshops in America.

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DarkStar

Jan-15-13 2:11 PM

"We shouldn't have Chinese style sweatshops in America."

Wow, not to overly dramatic are we?

"...most rise to the occasion."

As I stated, where I work now roughly 40% are within a couple points of termination, and tend to stay there, which means that most employees aren't.

Policies, and even laws for that matter, or not based on how most people will act. For example, why do we have speed limits since without them it's not like most people would drive 90mph up Central Ave, but of course some would.

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