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Edwards wants to know who’s in favor of selling County Home

January 16, 2013

MAYVILLE — Residents of Chautauqua County may soon know officially where their legislator stands on the sale of the County Home. County Executive Greg Edwards wants to know, too....

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judeye

Jan-17-13 8:47 AM

The average county home employee earns $48,236 per year.

Where did you get that figure?

If true, that is not that much money at all. My guess is that includes benefits, which would come to at least a third of that.

How much do you think a nurse should make? An occupational therapist, a physical therapist? A doctor?

I do not find that to be high at all..in fact, rather on the low end if we consider what they actually do to care for those in such need.

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 4:33 PM

"You dont know jack sheit about how nursing facilities work..Nothing!..."

Let's see, I worked in healthcare for 10 years, did a year of clinicals in various nursing facilities the County, have done per diem work at the County Home and the Lutheran home in Falconer and have had family members as residents in the County Home, Absolute in Dunkirk, and Fredonia Place.

In addition I have family members who work, or have worked, at Absolute Westfield (before it became absolute), the County Home, Heritage village, as well as Brooks and WCA.

But you go ahead and think what you want, since obviously your not open to any views that differ from your own, not to mention are very quick to attack

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 4:17 PM

And with charging only 40% what the CH does they still manage to turn a profit where the CH requires millions of extra dollars from the taxpayer to simply break even.

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 4:16 PM

SonnyB,

First let me say I would not make light of anyone who is suffering from dementia, one of my parents is suffering from it, and in fact lives in Fredonia Place right now (after I moved them from the CH due to the conditions there.)

What I make limit of you saying basically that they don't deny any patients, except for those they do.

As for the specifics of trach patients, locally the CH is the only "skilled care facilities," which means they can care for patients with advanced medical needs. But now I have to wonder why the CH doesn't accept Trach patients, could it be the cost associated with them? If so wouldn't that put them in the same catagory as the others you claim don't accept patients due to cost?

Fredonia Place's memory care wing is a secure environment, provides the same care for ambulatory dementia patients the CH does but FP has a higher staff to patient ratio, provides a better environment and considerbly better food, all for 40% of what the CH charge

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 3:31 PM

DarkStar..Listen up you mental fck,you make light of my families dilemmas?...You dont know jack sheit about how nursing facilities work..Nothing!...First off,no nursing facility in this area provides care for Trach patients!..Secondly,ambulatory dementia patients have different degrees of severity,private facilities cherry pick the ones that require the least amount of care,but make the most money from medicaid..Most of the severe cases need a secure environment,which these places you talk about dont provide..These people end up at the County Home,if they are lucky,because this unit is almost always full..The Home turns away no one,and if they do,its because of extenuating circumstances..This works the same way with any other type of patient at private facilities..Cash payers first,then the cherry picking process next!..The rejected end up at the County Home,because they take everybody in!!..I talk with one mouth,not out my arse like you!..

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commentor

Jan-16-13 1:11 PM

To those who want to sell the Home stop trying to explain to those who do not. They have no business sense and are brain dead. They continue to ignore the IGT money in their calculations. As for selling to Absolute visit the Dunkirk facility. Make sure you wear mask. The no sellers are the freeloaders of life and want to insure their free ride.

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 12:13 PM

FredoniaFred,

They don't need to apply thier theory, because it might provide them with an inconvenient truth and they might have to question their opinions and we can't have that can we?

Broken down it's simply a case of, SonnyB wont let little things like facts get in the way of their views.

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 12:10 PM

SonnyB,

Wow, talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth.

The County Home denies no one, except those it does. Seriously? lol!

I've yet to see anyone address why Fredonia Place can provide better care, better food and a better living environment for an ambulatory dementia patient for less than $3.5k a month and still make a profit but the County Home, which would charge over $8k a month for the same patient needs millions of tax dollars just to break even?

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 11:38 AM

FredoniaFred...You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG Fred!..I dont have to apply my theory,thats because it is fact,and at the moment my family is going thru a nightmare trying to place a family member into a Home,because no place in her area will take her,because she is still ambulatory,even though she has Dementia,and that it would be too costly to the facilities that were applied too..So far no Home within 150 miles will accept her..The same thing happened some years ago with one of my parents,no one in this area would accept her because of her special needs,she was finally placed in another state,180 miles away!..The County Home couldnt take her because they dont deal with Trach patients..The County Home accepts everyone,no questions asked,however there are some exceptions..Unfortunately my mother was one of them,without the Trach they would have taken her in..The home denies no one!..It must remain as it is!...

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 11:11 AM

FredoniaFred...Im talking about Rothners Inquisition video,not any other one thats going around....

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FredoniaFred

Jan-16-13 11:10 AM

SonnyB, I would ask the same question of you. The bible says we are to care for orphans and widows. If Jesus wanted the government to give the care I'm sure he would have mentioned it.

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FredoniaFred

Jan-16-13 11:08 AM

SonnyB, Mr. Rothner never appeared at an inquisition. He appeared before the legislature to answer questions about himself and his company and his plans for the county home. The butchers who edited the entire meeting into a 30 minute video made it into an inquisition.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 11:08 AM

FredoniaFred...SonnyB, the Lord tells us to give respect and care to the elderly, not to pawn the job off onto the government....Really??,where does it say that in the Bible??...Do you have a different version of the Bible than I do??...Who is your Lord??..Satan??...You and your kind make me sick!....

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FredoniaFred

Jan-16-13 11:04 AM

SonnyB, if you believe that the video is unedited, you are badly mistaken.

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FredoniaFred

Jan-16-13 11:03 AM

SonnyB, go to LSS, Heritage Homes, Tanglewood Manor and apply your theory that private homes are only interested in profit, give poor care and cherry pick those they choose to care for. You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 11:03 AM

teacherteacher...Most of the deficiencies at the Home came from technicalities..Not Quality of care of the residents!!..

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FredoniaFred

Jan-16-13 11:00 AM

SonnyB, the Lord tells us to give respect and care to the elderly, not to pawn the job off onto the government.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:59 AM

teacherteacher..Mr.Rothner doesnt believe in Star ratings..Watch the video of his inquisition and you will hear him say that...That only tells me one thing,his only concern is making money...You keep making an issue of this Star BS,

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:59 AM

teacherteacher..Mr.Rothner doesnt believe in Star ratings..Watch the video of his inquisition and you will hear him say that...That only tells me one thing,his only concern is making money...You keep making an issue of this Star BS,

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 10:52 AM

SonnyB,

Anyone, businessperson or politicain, who guarantees anything beyond the immediate future is either lying or guilty of wishful thinking.

As for this quote: "Private Homes care nothing but only making money"

And public homes, and employees, care nothing about saving money since they are restricted to only getting money from those who want to do business with them since they can always just demand more from taxpayers (which is actually the reason I oppose public unions.)

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:48 AM

teacherteacher...I think you are full of it..Sell the home and let someone who cares take control of it?..The only concern of Mr.Rothner is making money!...Quality of care is not his priority..His track record speaks for itself,along with the rest of his family..As of 2011, Rothner was still vice-president and director of operations for his fathers entity Hunter Management..He had many years to disassociate himself from his father,but never did...But cries foul when any mention of his relationship with his father is mentioned..The man is a liar!...

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:33 AM

Mr.Edwards and the rest of you who want the Home privatized are only concerned about money...Never is there any mention about quality of care....Shame on all of you....Sorry,taxes will never go down no matter what is cut or sold...Believing so is delusional...You want to talk about money?...Lets talk about 2 Airports that are useless,lets talk about a $450,000 gas well thats never been used,lets talk about cost saving measures never implemented from a $80,000 report and a report done in 2009 by Mr.Nazzaro...Lets talk about a welfare program that runs rampant funded by your tax dollars...The Home?...Well worth the $6-$15 a year to insure quality of care will not be compromised!!..

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teacherteacher

Jan-16-13 10:21 AM

The county home was rated 2 out of 5 stars by CMS and ranked 392 out of 631 NYS nursing homes.

The average county home employee earns $48,236 per year.

Page 13 of the report says the home's employee average benefits equeals $59.70 per resident per day compared to the regional market value of 30.69. That is twice the average.

County home employees take far too many sick days.

Have you ever been to the home, most of those employees could care less about the people. Bells going off, nurses and employees talking at their stations not taking care of the needs of the people.

Sell the home and let someone who cares take control of it.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:11 AM

.The majority of nursing home residents can not take care of themselves,they can not be placed in an a assisted living,assisted living meaning the only care they get is they are made sure they get their medication....How can a person with Dementia or Alzheimer's go about their daily lives without extra care?....The County Home has a state of the art Alzheimer's unit,but the prospective buyer offered no guarantee he would keep it,and also said he can not guarantee all applicants would be accepted....This is not acceptable!....

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:06 AM

February 07, 2012 8:26 pm • By Jamar Younger, Arizona Daily Star

Photo courtesy of the Tucson Police Department. Enlarge Photo

Tucson police are looking for an elderly man who walked out of a midtown rehabilitation center.

Gilbert S. Sanchez, 86, was last seen Sunday before he left the Foothills Rehabilitation Center, 2250 N. Craycroft Road, according to a Tucson Police Department news release.

Sanchez left the center between 11:30 a.m. and noon.

He suffers from heart and kidney conditions, and has a tendency to confuse easily, police said.

Sanchez is described as 5-feet-6 inches, 140 pounds with gray hair and brown eyes.

He was last seen wearing a white baseball hat, brown jacket and tan slacks.

The man wears a medical "wander" bracelet on one of his wrists and uses a walker to get around.

He doesn't have family in the Tucson area, but may have friends in Rio Rico and Nogales.

Anyone with information is asked to call 911 or 88-CRIME

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