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Goodell, Young feel sweeping gun law rushed in anger

By ERIC TICHY

January 18, 2013

State Assemblyman Andy Goodell isn’t pleased with Tuesday’s gun-control bill signed into law by Gov. Andrew Cuomo....

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Malinda

Jan-18-13 6:35 AM

I agree with Goodell and Young. This was just a "knee jerk" reaction to put a Band-aid over a gushing wound that requires stitches. The SAFE Act will only hinder people with mental health issues from getting the help they need for fear of persecution.

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bulldog10

Jan-18-13 6:48 AM

You already have mental health issues if you fear the government is coming for all your guns.

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Steiner

Jan-18-13 8:20 AM

Bulldog has perception issues. Guns were confiscated in Australia. What we saw in NY was the result of our Al Obama news networks in action. Assault rifles bad. It turned out the AR 15 was not used at the school. We have a third world govt now issuing proclamations based on beliefs instead of facts. For sure bulldog, this tells me the govt fears its own citizens, the vast majority are legal and sane. Why else the rush to ban and restrict ammo loads. The libs are nuts, pure and simple.

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roberta2

Jan-18-13 8:38 AM

Just another kick in the keyster --showing NEW YORK City has the population-- money and power --We are nothing but poop on a stick to the NYC people --THANK YOU to all our Rep that voted against the bill--!!

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Marcia

Jan-18-13 8:39 AM

People do not need to have assault rifles and extremely large magazines, plain and simple. I agree that the bill was ruched, and they should have gone through the normal legislative procedure, and then passed the bill. We need to change the culture of guns in our society. It happened with cigarettes and it can happen with guns.

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judeye

Jan-18-13 8:41 AM

I think this act is a good one. It does not impede on any law abiding citizen at all. No one needs assault weapons or rounds that can shoot out multi bullets in a very short time. Who can be against background checks?

We have changed many laws to save lives. Drunk driving quickly comes to mind. The police used to turn their heads to drunk driving. With push from the public MADD for instance, laws were changed and a push to enforce those laws was made.

A mental health worker must now report any client who threatens violence against others. If someone fears that their therapist will report them for threatening violence, I doubt they would be seeking treatment in the first place. Just like mandated child abuse, I think this is great..mandate real threats of violence must be reported. It is a first step in perhaps getting them the real help that they need...and more importantly just might save lives.

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Steiner

Jan-18-13 8:57 AM

Jjudeye and marcia are big time mommies now. There are plenty of large capacity guns in America . Plus the AR 15 was not used at Sandy. So Marcia and Judeye have perception issues . Some one said here if populations in Africa are worth less than other populations, due to large amount of killing of blacks in Africa . We can say for sure yes !This goes on ih the inner city ghetto all the time, the victims are black and noone cared. Now white kids get killed and it is suddenly important. Yep, certain groups are more valuable than others. we have the proof right before our eyes. By the democrats themselves ! Obama too ! Yessirree Obama sure is smart. Lets his own get killed but not whites. Judeye, Marcia is there anything else your maternal instincts would like us to do ? Stand guard at abortion clinics ? Protect Obams kids but not anyone elses ? Come on libs, let me know .

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rosebud

Jan-18-13 9:01 AM

If we are for hunters "RIGHTS", then you have to know that there are less & less hunters & more & more Deer. If you do hunt & can't get your deer with a rifle that only fires 7 shots in a row, then your not much of a hunter. When I was married, I did not allow a gun in my house, and because of that my ex is still alive.

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DarkStar

Jan-18-13 10:00 AM

Judeye,

Are you actually comparing drunk driving laws with an assault rifle ban? Are you for real?

Drunk driving laws are made to punish the lawbreaker, these anti-gun laws only punish the law abiding citizens.

As for mental health workers reporting people that are a threat, this has always been the case, all that's changed is that now the government might actually do something with the report, although I'm sure buried in it somewhere is a "get out of jail free card" that says the state has no liability for failing to act.

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DarkStar

Jan-18-13 10:16 AM

"...No one needs assault weapons or rounds that can shoot out multi bullets in a very short time"

So basically all semiautomatics, and most pistols should be banned according to you?

Almost any gun with a detachable clip can be reloaded in a few seconds, even by an inexperienced shooter, so even a 5 shot limit for clips really solves nothing and only makes a nutcase reload a few more times.

But this ban is a fraud to begin with, and Cuomo and Obama are both using distortions and outright lies to push their leftist anti-gun agenda.

The AR-15 was not used in the Sandy Hook school shooting and in fact it was never even taken into the school, but of course we can't let a little thing like the truth get in the way of forcing through a leftist agenda.

TO quote Rahm Emanuel when he was Obama's chief of staff:

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

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DarkStar

Jan-18-13 10:18 AM

Put simply, Cuomo, Obama and the anti-gun zealots out there are exploiting the deaths of those children to push through totally unrelated laws.

Pathetic, and if a member of the GOP were to do something similar Judeye and Marcia would be screaming bloody murder about it as would the media and every DNC mountpiece that could find someone with a videocamera.

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kcw007

Jan-18-13 10:39 AM

Rushed? Absolutely and, moreover, purposely designed to ensnare as many gunowners as possible, most of whom had absolutely no reason to ever believe that their guns could possibly be involved in the assault weapon debate. Surprize, Surprize!

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kcw007

Jan-18-13 11:04 AM

Here's an example. Virtually EVERY 22RF rifle or pistol ever sold in the last 75 years, and having a detachable magazine, came standard with a ten round magazine. Now, when gramps takes his grandsons out back to shoot up some tin cans, he's going to be a felon because he puts more than seven rounds in the clip?! A WHOLE lot of people who never suspected that they are now involved with this mess aren't going to be paying attention to what's going on. Why would they? But the next thing they'll know is that some cop is putting the cuffs on them!

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kcw007

Jan-18-13 11:22 AM

Rushed? The matter is so confusing at this point that the State Police have removed the text of the law from their website. Gun dealers calling the State Police for advice are being politely told that the organization has no idea as to how to proceed at this point. One dealer ,making inquiry of the federal government as to the procedure for getting the now required NICS check for ammo sales, was given the run around. Apparently NICS is not setup to do that sort of thing!

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American

Jan-18-13 11:24 AM

"It happened with cigarettes and it can happen with guns." It also happened with large drinks, now guns and yet you liberal whackos don't see any pattern to this. It was not alright for the government to step in on any of these.

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DarkStar

Jan-18-13 11:52 AM

It's bizzare how many take such broad views of other amendments but want to insist on a narrow view on the second amendment.

I don't want to debate abortion, but it's sort of funny that man of the people I know who say that abortions are a right protected by Constitution, when it doesn't say a word about it, and yet they also claim that private ownership of firearms isn't a right, even though the Constitution clearly says otherwise.

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FedUpTaxpayer

Jan-18-13 11:56 AM

All guns used by the police are now illegal in NY State. They hold a 15 bullet clip.

Way to go Como and I'm a Democrat.

A law that violates the Constitution is an illegal law and is unenforceable!!!

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shaver58

Jan-18-13 11:59 AM

First politicians don,t care about the people they care about their job and the power they get from their job. Second libs Conley care about making people conform to their way of thinking. It,s time that the average hard working Joe get's off his keyster and call, write, E-mail or tweet their reps letting them know it's not OK to chip away the constitution and bill of writes. Before some thing you care about gets taken away No one needs more then 7 rounds, no one needs a tacticale weapon, a 32 oz soft drink, no one needs more then $250,000.00. Little by little we so freely give up our rights. So so sad

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PhilJulian

Jan-18-13 1:05 PM

The sad truth is that many more deaths are caused by hammers, knives and medical malpractice than are killed by guns. Don't be surprised when Cuomo demands that you register your hammers - of course for a fee. The recently passed law was politically motivated and may be in violation of the constitution. Of course New York State comes in first again - gun laws and excessive taxes.

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bulldog10

Jan-18-13 1:50 PM

Alot of what you people are saying is lets stand by and let the killings continue.

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FedUpTaxpayer

Jan-18-13 2:12 PM

Bulldog, the Sandy shooting was with a long rifle. The AR-15 was found after a search. Why ban assault weapons, but not the actual gun used in the crime. This Cuomo gun law only hurts law abiding citizens. Like the Webster firemen who were killed by a convicted felon, he got a gun, didn't he.

Laws that violate the Constitution have to be challenged, stopped and revoked ASAP!!! Otherwise, hope you like living in a communist police state. Why did American's die for our freedom if people like you want to just give it all away.

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Santora

Jan-18-13 3:11 PM

I really and truly believe the courts will take this one down and the process is already underway!

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bulldog10

Jan-18-13 3:31 PM

Dude I served my county. The fact is you or I need nothing more then a shot gun to protect yourself as well as for hunting and sport. This B S about needing handguns and the rest of the crap is just cowboy wild west and a money maker for gun makers. Any right you have can be taken away, in fact we have far to many rights in this country most of which are abused by people who could care less about this land. And you would be the first crying about illegals, people on welfare, burning the flag, and taxes.

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bulldog10

Jan-18-13 3:34 PM

There is a reason to everything, just like a speed limit. You have a right to drive your car whatever speed you want. They even make cars that go 120 MPH or more. However, when it becomes a safety issue and involves others then the majority speak. The majority of Americans don't want certain type of weapons sold.

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bulldog10

Jan-18-13 3:46 PM

The courts were going to handle obama care too. They handled that one didn't they, surprise!

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