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Second vote on selling County Home said possible

February 12, 2013

MAYVILLE — A second vote on whether to sell the Chautauqua County Nursing Home to Altitude Health Services could be on the table this month....

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whams63

Feb-15-13 7:13 AM

Put decision up for the tax payer to vote. If we're paying the bills then we should have the total say so. Its as simple as that! And just as an fyi my vote is to sell. The only ones who say no or save our home are the ones who have a lot to loose...their cushy jobs and over paying jobs.

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kmcc62

Feb-13-13 8:18 PM

Edwards would sell his own mother for sure, but not to save the county home, it would be to get his way on ANYTHING he wants. He is a poor excuse for a (haha) leader, not to mention a man. If the CCL and Greg really want to sell the home, at least make it to a good company with a good reputation. Better yet, READ the CGR report, (that cost $80,000)and make some changes.Also changes in the legislature, but please Greg, dont bother running for governor, ,the state isnt in the best shape now,and also, I couldnt think of anyone that would vote for you.

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DarkStar

Feb-13-13 2:57 PM

Yes judeye we know, the home has managed, due to millions in taxpayer subsides to have a few pennies to run together at the end of the year.

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judeye

Feb-13-13 7:58 AM

FredoniaFred...that is simply NOT True..that the HOME is losing money every month. That is something someone 9(wonder who?) ..put out there that is just NOT TRUE.

Have you bothered to read the report that we just paid for?

"Even factoring in the County match required to draw down the IGT funds..the..Home...has generated..about $110,000 per year since 2007....These figures are counter to the figures cited in recent media reports.."

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bulldog10

Feb-13-13 7:29 AM

Times change, and sometimes laws need to be changed to fit the times. In order to sell the home under a new law it would still take a majority to pass. 2/3 is unfair, it should only be a majority.

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Captain

Feb-12-13 8:51 PM

To rescind a law that was enacted specifically to prevent something like this from happening is as low as it gets. Now you know why pols are more des***** than dirtbag lawyers.

Edwards & the CCLeg are some of the most disgraceful people to ever hold office. And to those of you who approve of this unethical move just to satisfy your own needs, be careful what you wish for. You all deserve each other.

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DKexpat

Feb-12-13 4:56 PM

“I use the Fredonia-Stockton Road to get to Mayville from D-F.”

Well, too bad – it’s not a toll road, so it must be losing money. If it’s in the red, if it’s costing taxpayer dollars to operate, it’s in the same boat as the CCH and should be sold (or, if no buyer, plowed under).

Oh, wait! It’s useful? And the CCH isn’t?

[Yes, hyperbole, but isn't that the crux of Edwards' argument?]

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popawheelie

Feb-12-13 4:45 PM

it does not alarm anybody the legislature is going to change a law to get the vote they want and at the same time increase their power to make changes and with no public input or possibly no public vote. does anybody remember why in 75 the law was written the way it was ? you need a super majority to sell county property but a majority to change super majority law.

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DKexpat

Feb-12-13 4:21 PM

Many people (and families) of modest means use their entire savings - and lose their homes - to pay for elder care, especially when mobility or mind have diminished and 24/7 care is the only option.

Take draconian measures: break the union, implement the study’s recommendations, hook up the gas well, and use every available option to run the CCH as efficiently as possible.

And if it’s still in the red, if taxpayers can’t take on some of the cost, if charity begins at home but stays at home - then shame on us. If there’s no belief or moral imperative to help seniors at their greatest time of need, I no longer recognize the county I grew up in.

The county exec and legislature – running 75% unopposed, mind you – got everyone into this mess, and a quick fix (influx of cash) is their solution. This time. What will it be next time?

As I wrote, if you want to sell a county asset/service that’s in the red, speak up just as loudly to sell every other one that’s in the same boat.

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killers

Feb-12-13 2:34 PM

Lets hope our legislators vote on fiscal prudence and not because their potential supporters live in their district. If this county home was financially solvent enterprise their would have been more than just two offers. Remember, even non profits did not even make an offer, that has to tell people something.

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Otziman

Feb-12-13 2:27 PM

DunkirkRFD.Well how about it?.You going to call me or meet me?.Speak up,I cant hear you!.Same to you too commentor.Actually Im really a nice person.lol.

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teacherteacher

Feb-12-13 2:17 PM

A person can't take care of their parents so they send them off to be cared for by strangers and expect the taxpayer to flip the bill. Just like welfare. Lets start taking care of our own and start with our parents.

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Hammer

Feb-12-13 2:13 PM

commentor.I bet you are a slumlord.

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DunkirkRFD

Feb-12-13 2:01 PM

Otziman, SonnyB and MachineHead are one in the same.

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commentor

Feb-12-13 1:59 PM

The biggest mouth to not sell the home is a freeloader.....no kidding. Shame on you for expecting taxpayers to care for your old relatives. Taxpayers are tired of carrying the load for the freeloaders!!!!!!

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SonnyB

Feb-12-13 1:56 PM

Beware....There are County Legislators masquerading as posters in here....Probably the big GE too....

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Otziman

Feb-12-13 1:47 PM

DunkirkRFD..How about what?.Give me call or meet me somewhere.lol.Dipsheit!.

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DKexpat

Feb-12-13 1:29 PM

If it's just about "the CCH must break even," then sell it.

Then please be consistent - speak up just as loudly to sell EVERY county asset or service that doesn't turn a profit.

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DunkirkRFD

Feb-12-13 12:38 PM

How bout it Ron.

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DunkirkRFD

Feb-12-13 12:38 PM

Looks like Iceman has changed his name to MachineHead

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bulldog10

Feb-12-13 12:02 PM

I am just asking this; what would be the reason that someone would spend 16 million dollars on a nursing home just to run it bad so the state closes it down? I don't understand why a businessperson would do that? Can someone explain that to me?

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obamaless

Feb-12-13 11:34 AM

amen to phil i agree,put it up for a vote!!

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MachineHead

Feb-12-13 11:30 AM

Comment from the article.... emily2222

Following the closing of Countryside, I have received notices that the thieves running the scam over there have claimed my disabled mother's small personal account as payment for services. This is Medicare fraud, since her stay was covered by Medicare/SSI. They also had the nerve to send a bill for an additional payment, and then threatened to take us to collections if we did not pay, and we have no way to fight back against a company that has basically dissolved itself. There is no good reason to privatize healthcare, it only serves to create more ways for people without morals to take advantage of those who are most vulnerable. Shame on them, and shame on those who support privatization of facilities such as nursing homes.

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MachineHead

Feb-12-13 11:28 AM

Article continued.... As our population ages, a greater number of full-time care facilities supported by Medicare and Medicaid Services will be in demand. When Countryside closed so suddenly, the options for the elderly or permanently injured include other, more-expensive private facilities that may not accept residents on such short notice or take Medicare or Medicaid as a form of payment. Residents were forced to move to care centers elsewhere, including in Vestal, Buffalo and Pennsylvania.

The closure also meant the loss of jobs for about 200 employees, including highly skilled nurses and assistants, administrative workers and others. In a rural region struggling to provide medical care to its residents, Countryside’s closure registers another blow to those efforts.

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MachineHead

Feb-12-13 10:48 AM

October 15, 2012 In Our Opinion: Otsego must learn lesson of Countryside

-- The Daily Star

With the final three residents vacating Countryside Care Center in Delhi on Friday, a chapter in the rocky history of the 199-bed facility comes to an end.

The closure of Countryside — operated as a nonprofit by Delaware County starting in the late 1960s until its sale to private firm Leatherstocking Healthcare LLC in 2006 — deprives the area of a much-needed resource.

The center closed last week because Leatherstocking failed to file a plan to correct 66 deficiencies found at the site by the state Department of Health.

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