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Obama claims clear progress

Says GOP?should back his plan

February 13, 2013

WASHINGTON — Uncompromising and politically emboldened, President Barack Obama urged a deeply divided Congress Tuesday night to embrace his plans to use government money to create jobs and strengthe......

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stangv8

Feb-15-13 11:13 PM

teacherteacher, outstanding point! The best and brightest are leaving the area. Where are they going? Texas, North Carolina, Arizona, and other points down south. NY State and the Northeast is dying.

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Nathan

Feb-15-13 5:37 PM

Judeye, get focus girl. I never referenced the UN as having a report about the lack of global warming. I would never cite a group that was anti-American but rely on us for everything.

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teacherteacher

Feb-15-13 9:44 AM

Judeye, the problem is for years we have been exporting our best high school students. They leave to go to college and never come back. The ones that are left (and I am not saying they are bad) have very little skills and little or no education after high school.

If you get someone that wants to do something high tech could we really attract people to this area?

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judeye

Feb-15-13 8:28 AM

PhilJulian...while I agree..the important point is..where are the JOBS?

Where are those who are working at places that only pay minimal wage to go to get more money? What companies in this area pay a family sustaining wage? Not many..

I was thinking we should lobby hard to get this area one of those new high tech training facilities that the Pres spoke of (one in Youngstown Ohio) Wow that would be such a boost to our economy. We have the colleges here..we have the people here..and we have the need. Should we start a campaign?

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judeye

Feb-15-13 8:21 AM

Oh, as I went to check what other countries are doing for alternative energy...found this in the Christian Monitor.... China, 7.6 percent of world total

"China is the largest energy consumer and second-largest net importer of oil (as of 2009). China is also the global leader in clean energy sector investment, with half of its financing in wind."

and this..."The United States increase in alternative energy sources is increasing due to federal, state, and local tax and other incentives, as well as mandated state goals. The United States is significantly behind China in its renewable sector investment intensity. Efforts to join international agreements or introduce long-term, large scale reductions in emissions have met with opposition in Congress and the private sector."

Opposition in Congress??? Hmm..and how many lobbyists does the oil and gas industry have..and how much do they give to congress people (like Rep Reed) to vote their interests rather than the pe

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judeye

Feb-15-13 8:14 AM

Yes, I do get the point where China is contributing to much of the carbon output, harming our atmosphere.

Yet to use that as an argument as to why the USA should also do NOTHING makes no sense. Why instead do we not lead the way. Address climate change in a big way. We could possible put pressure on other countries to do the same.

Have any of you considered why some want to hide the facts? Why some congress people and ads on tv and talking heads who are bought and paid for...all get tons of money from the oil and gas industries. Now say we all started to use more alternative, renewable energy resources, decreasing our need for oil. They can not charge us for the use of the sun or the wind can they?

Follow the money ...every time it will lead you to the real reasons why many times we are mislead.

Can you imagine how great it would be if in the future we got most of our energy from renewable, non polluting, sources?

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judeye

Feb-15-13 8:08 AM

rdnewt.."OK, so let's say for the sake of argument that perhaps man is contributing to global warming."..."Further more Judi, while I am rolling, Nathan's comments about the UN are quite true, in my opinion."

This is exactly the problem. Too many just want to use 'their opinion" rather than FACTS. Climate change, and much of it due to human activity, is NOT up for debate. It is NOT an opinion. It is called a FACT based on real scientific evidence and scientific research.

Just like the comment on the UN. We are not discussing if you like the UN or whatever. Rather, the comment made by Nathan was that the UN published a report which denied that climate change was due to humans. I clearly showed where that was FALSE.

Anyone who thinks that climate change in not occurring, and that it is at least in part due to human activity, once again I will ask you show the cite where you got that information.

There is a difference between Opinion..and FACT.

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bulldog10

Feb-14-13 9:51 AM

Its always the case localresident, when you can't win the argument belittle the competition. You have to do what you do best! No real facts, no real argument, just belittle!

You need to look in the mirror regarding medical conditions. Its not funny to accuse someone of that stuff if its not true.

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PhilJulian

Feb-14-13 9:44 AM

The president is asking for a 24% increase in the minimum wage. If he gets it you can expect a round of inflation and unemployment. My company pension has not increased in 15 years while social security has increased very little. Will the president increase my social security and company pension by 24%? Wages and salaries should not be dictated by government. If a person wants better pay they should get a better education and seek a better job. Many of the minimum wage jobs are entry level or supplements to family income. You can't expect to support a family flipping burgers.

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rdnewt

Feb-14-13 9:22 AM

No, but from experience I can tell you, that you can not find a kid willing to work for $8/hr anymore, doing menial labor. There needs to be a standard, but every time the wage goes up, so do costs. Many businesses in this state are saying the*****with it,and closing up shop. Many are leaving the country to go where the regulations and wages are lower. It is not always about greed, it is about survival. A business is started to bring income to the owner, not for any other reason. Jobs are a positive side effect of success. If the success is not there, the jobs are gone. An employer can not keep increasing wages without an increase in productivity. What you earn is in direct relation to your value to the employer.

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localresident

Feb-14-13 9:22 AM

Bulldog, I know it's hard for you to comprehend what "facts" are when you're hopped up on your ADHD meds because all those "participant" ribbons didn't translate into the real world as accomplishments, so I forgive you your transgressions. After all, I know you're still struggling with the reality that you need to work toward a goal, and that it just isn't handed to you.

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bulldog10

Feb-14-13 9:12 AM

Do we really want jobs that pay 3 or 4 dollars an hour?

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bulldog10

Feb-14-13 9:11 AM

rdnewt, you do have a good point on min wage. But I have to wonder where we would be if we didn't have someone telling the employer what the min wage should be. Look at farming or a waitress for example.

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rdnewt

Feb-14-13 9:08 AM

Then you add in the additional costs of the employer portion of the payroll tax, and that increases it even more. By the time you are all finished, you are looking at an average of about a $50,000 increase on a small business that only has 10 employees. How is that fair to expect them to foot that bill? You won't, because the costs for the goods and services will go up to cover the increased costs. What does that do to the value of the dollar? That increase that you just gave the poor worker is now null and void because he just had to pay more for everything. Who gets hurt, the middle class person who is making enough over minimum wage to not get an increase when it goes up, because his money will not be worth what it was. The only winner-the government, because of the increase in taxes on the goods, and the increased payroll. Do the math. It doesn't take a "think tank" to see this would screw up everybody's lives.

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rdnewt

Feb-14-13 9:02 AM

And to Dcronlg, raising the minimum wage will kill jobs, regardless of what these brilliant think tanks have to say. If the minimum wage is raised, and especially by such a large amount, how are businesses, particularly small businesses going to stay in business? If an employee is making $7.25 right now, and it goes up to $9 as the president wants, that is an increase of $3640 per employee that the business has to cover somehow, with no increase in productivity. Multiply this by 10 employees, and you have and extra $36,400. Add into this the additional cost of compensation insurance, which premium is based on wages paid out, and you are looking at a much higher rate. Now the business is going to have to charge more for it's product or service in order to cover the added expense, in which case the cost of liability insurance goes up, as it is based on the gross sales, (not profit).

Cont....

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bulldog10

Feb-14-13 9:00 AM

Localresident, stick to the fact, Oh wait you don't believe in facts. Sorry!

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bulldog10

Feb-14-13 8:59 AM

Rdnewt, not that I agree with Judeye on everything but he has a point on facts. You, Rdnewt stated China owes all our debt. Really! From what I have read only about 47% of our debt is owed by foreign holders. China is owed 9.8 percent, Japan 9.6 percent, England 5.1 percent..... One thing I have noticed about posters is that lots of them are paranoid about issues like China, guns, the government taking over, etc, etc and they freak out instead of stating the facts.

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localresident

Feb-14-13 8:57 AM

Bulldog, that was a pretty witty comment...oh wait, no it wasn't. Do your parents know that you're raiding their liquor cabinet and using their computer? You really shouldn't drink while on Ritalin, you know.

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rdnewt

Feb-14-13 8:54 AM

Further more Judi, while I am rolling, Nathan's comments about the UN are quite true, in my opinion. The United Nations is one of the most corrupt political organizations in the world. They do nothing to stop Communist nations like China from continuing down the disastrous road it is heading down, while constantly criticizing the United States. They are working diligently to try to disarm our citizens, and for what purpose I am scared to find out. It is an organization that is continually run by criminal communist states, and ridicules the free and democratic ones. This is the organization, if any ever were, that is at the forefront of trying to create a New World Order, under it's own dictatorial command. They are an absolute joke of a group that the United States should get out of immediately. Let them headquarter in a more peaceful place like Libya, since it is places like that which they just swoon over.

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bulldog10

Feb-14-13 8:48 AM

Localresident, I knew you would put me next to the cow's mouth because you love and were saving that cow's ...... so much! Hahahahaha

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rdnewt

Feb-14-13 8:46 AM

OK, so let's say for the sake of argument that perhaps man is contributing to global warming. The United States has been working to reduce it's "carbon footprint" for several years now, ever since these notions came to light. So who is the biggest threat to global warming then? How about the country that owns all of our debt, China. This is a nation with world's largest population, one of the worlds biggest civil rights violators, and the worlds biggest polluter. They have virtually no regulations aimed towards environmental protection. What gets me mad, is the notion that America, with all of it's regulation, and science, and new technology that it puts to use, (generally using China as it's main source of production), get's the biggest blame, meanwhile China gets "most favored nation" status. We actually try to do something here. Our businesses suffer under the cost prohibitive regulations, while our government buys and borrows from a nation that has none.

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judeye

Feb-14-13 8:18 AM

I cannot relate how frustrating it is to read comments here that are based on nothing more than opinions and talking head junk.

There is something called FACTS. Scientific facts are based on real evidence and studies.

Yet so many of you just ignore the facts. Meanwhile, our entire planet is at GREAT risk. I seriously feel like climate denials (science denials..kinda like the folks who still cling to the view that the earth is flat)..are like Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burns.

I could post link after link of real SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of climate change but I doubt any of you would take the time to read any of them. After all..they would be based on FACTS backed up with real evidence.

I would have hoped that by this time...using your own eyes you would realize we..our planet...is in GREAT DANGER. Extreme weather..rising sea levels...melting of the ice caps...

Thankfully I think our President (and many others like Gov Christie) GET IT Hope it is not too late.

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judeye

Feb-14-13 8:04 AM

Nathan....not sure what UN you are talking about...

un dot org...the official UN site...

"11 February 2013 – Secretary General Ban Ki-moon at the Council of foreign relations, turning to what he called “the gathering threat of climate change,” said scientists have long sounded the alarm, and stressed the potential consequences of climate change. Those include “a downward global spiral of extreme weather and disaster,” along with development reversals, increased displacement, aggravated tensions over resources and destabilization of fragile states. "

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mookie

Feb-13-13 8:22 PM

You cannot blame the lack of jobs on the president. The stock market is way up. Corporate America is sitting on it's profits and not hiring workers. Gov't can't create jobs only employers can.

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DKexpat

Feb-13-13 7:36 PM

A State of the Union speech that came off the Democratic campaign trail, but as someone who voted for Romney, I'm just as disappointed in the Repubs.

Romney promised 12 million jobs in 4 years, and Paul Ryan jumped on that bandwagon to parrot the company line in addition to all his ideas on cutting the deficit.

Where are those ideas now, just 3 months or so later? My fellow Repubs in Congress, why aren't you raising the same points NOW...unless that was as much hot air as the President last night?

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