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No sale

Resolution to sell County Home fails again

February 28, 2013

MAYVILLE — After a meeting lasting nearly four hours, no change has been made in regard to the Chautauqua County Home....

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Captain

Feb-28-13 4:50 AM

It's refreshing to see that morality prevailed over back-room politics for a change.

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Christopher

Feb-28-13 6:41 AM

It would appear that way, as you said, FOR A CHANGE!

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Roadglide

Feb-28-13 7:08 AM

I am glad to see the county reps have made a wise decision on the unconstition safe act. Our county is on a growing list that are opposed to this. And of course lets not forget Robert duff. It's no shock he is for the safe act. Why this man keeps getting elected is beyond me and I can't wait til he's out. Anything hunting or firearms related he hates.

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bronski

Feb-28-13 7:20 AM

I am glad to see this happen. Lets change the rules in the middle of an issue so that it will go in their favor, wow. Remember these people on election day:Voting in favor of the change were Barmore, Borrello, Croscut, Gould, Hemmer, Himelein, Horrigan, Stewart, Tarbrake and Wendel. I live in Silver Creek and will not vote for Borrello. He has done nothing for this area accept for his own family. When trying to speak to him one day after a meeting in Fredonia at JCC he was only interested in going to the Pier for a beer. As an elected official he should be willing to speak to the people that have concerns. As for Barmore and Croscutt,they are in Edwards right pocket (where are your cows now). They do not have the interest of the people of this county. Elections are coming, lets see what happens this year.

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GeorgeB67

Feb-28-13 7:41 AM

Bronski - I don't know who you are. But I do recall that JCC meeting nearly three years ago. I remember speaking to people before and after it. I pride myself on always returning calls and emails and speaking to people. If you have an issue you'd like to discuss you can go to the county website where my cell phone number is listed or email me.

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rumblefish

Feb-28-13 8:15 AM

around and around we go where it stops no one knows,if this goverment by the people for the people,than why is there such major opposition to putting the sale on the next election ballot and let the people decide? a simple ya or nay vote and move on,what we have here is failure to communicate,ain't that right Luke

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judeye

Feb-28-13 8:51 AM

I thank the legislation for standing up to the pressure to sell the HOME!!

Captain..exactly...Morality over politics. Yes there are some things..many things..that really are more important than money. Caring for our most vulnerable citizens, to me, is one.

I thank the legislation in particular for refusing to change a law that we have had in place in this County for several decades now requiring a super majority before any County property can be sold. This law was put into place to protect and safeguard all the residents of the county. It has worked well for the past 37 some years, yet some wanted to change it because they did not like the outcome of the last vote. As I told the legislation last night, it sounded exactly like my grandchildren when they start to lose a game, asking to change the rules. Thankfully most in our county..and most of the legislators..saw through this and voted NOT to change the law.

THANK YOU LEGISLATORS...especially my legislator

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PhilJulian

Feb-28-13 9:39 AM

There is only one fair way to resolve this issue. put it on the ballot in November and let the voters decide BY A MAJORITY VOTE!!!!!

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rosebud

Feb-28-13 9:55 AM

Maybe, Mr. Barmore, if you stomp your feet & throw yourself on the floor, someone will fall for it & you can have your own way.. Lets admit that you have met with defeat & move on. You have spent enough of our County dollars on this problem. You've lost. Now find a way to take care of our elderly without going even farther into debt. I still can not understand what was wrong with taking payment over a period of years from Absolute. The payments would certainly last longer. By the time it was paid for you would be out & someone else would be in. Perhaps someone with a more intelligent way of doing things..

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rumblefish

Feb-28-13 10:25 AM

ask the unemotional taxpayer if sales of all county operated properties would cut taxes,employee benefits,overhead and increase tax revenues,would the support it,you bet they would

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DarkStar

Feb-28-13 10:28 AM

PhilJulian,

Actually I'd counter that even that wouldn't be completely fair since many voters wont be affected even if the CH leeched 10 times as many tax dollars as it does now.

How about putting it to a vote of those paying property tax in the county since they are the ones having to pay for all the out of control spending, of which the CH is simply part of.

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wiseup

Feb-28-13 11:14 AM

The Legislature are cowards. Sell the Home, Shut down CSEA and lower our taxes.

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FredoniaFred

Feb-28-13 11:36 AM

NYS law does not allow the sale of the CCH to be put on the November ballot. NYS law does allow the voters to choose if a simple majority should be allowed to sell the CCH or not.

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HaveANiceDay

Feb-28-13 11:59 AM

Typical Phil, vote doesn't go your way, whine about the process. The county home won. Get over it.

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DKexpat

Feb-28-13 12:56 PM

Remember that definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

What was it last election – something like 17 of 25 county legislators ran unopposed? But taxpayers expect those same people to fix the mess they, themselves, got everyone into in the first place?

No wonder so many of them want to sell the CCH – the “quick cash” would cover up all the mistakes they’ve made over the past few years. (Has anyone heard ANY legislator ask about the $400k spent on the gas well?)

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commentor

Feb-28-13 3:48 PM

I agree put it on the ballot and let the people that pay decide.

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concerned

Feb-28-13 6:30 PM

Put the issue up for public vote would put it to rest once and for all!!!! Obviously the sniveling cowards in the legislature can't do it!

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Captain

Feb-28-13 6:34 PM

If there were 17+ Legs who agreed to sell, and all the opposing posters on here screamed: "let the public decide", you'd all be defending the legislature's vote. Go figure.

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Captain

Feb-28-13 6:52 PM

Those who support selling the CCH now want this put to a public vote? Apparently they don't comprehend the super majority law, or that the CCLeg tried to change it but failed.

The law requires a super majority of county legislators, NOT a majority of county voters!

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concerned

Feb-28-13 7:29 PM

captian a public vote is the way this should have been handled from day one instead of wasting all of this time and money!

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bronski

Feb-28-13 7:58 PM

Can not put it to a public vote. Sorry, laws are in place to prevent that. We just keep spinning the wheel and hoping it will stop where Edwards wants it. It hasn't worked yet and he keeps getting knocked down. Whats next. Placing blame on others for your incompetency is a cop out. Sell everything and bust the union. That will solve everything NOT. Lets eliminate all the villages and towns and make just one Chautauqua City and consolidate services. Great concept don't you think. It could work if the right people are in place. Poor management will only create more controversy. Wake up Greg. It's not working.

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judeye

Feb-28-13 8:11 PM

wiseup...you do understand that a sale of the HOME would NOT lower your taxes by one dime. Edwards himself has said this.

and have you bothered to read the report at all..the one that states the HOME actually has a SURPLUS?

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judeye

Feb-28-13 8:12 PM

DKexpat..going next week to go through that file...will keep you and all informed as to what I can find out.

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Captain

Feb-28-13 8:44 PM

Time to go back to fundamentals:

Immediately fire CCH Admin Hellwig; impose all CGR recommendations; and negotiate with CSEA.

Hopefully, this will help CCH start running as efficiently as possible, which is all we should expect.

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bronski

Feb-28-13 9:32 PM

Captain: if only higher powers that be would listen to what you just said. Instead it has become a********contest that makes this county look terrible. I am behind you 100%. How can we get them to listen?

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