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Dunkirk police chief injured in accident

March 29, 2013

The recent rash of accidents in the local area continued Thursday and this time it involved a city of Dunkirk police vehicle....

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-03-13 5:09 PM

I'm done commenting. It's all yours Phil. I didn't know you were such a baby. You would never make it in a locker room. A little ball breaking never hurt anyone. You'll never hear from me again. Later.....

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shutterfly

Apr-03-13 5:03 PM

Please people take a break! They call them accidents for a reason. I for one am certainly glad that no one was injured worse than they were. This is the busiest intersection in the county and has numerous accidents. I can tell you both parties were injured as The Chief was treated for his knee at the hospital. As for any other allegations, I can tell you I have personally ridden to meetings in Mayville and Jamestown with the Chief and have also found him to be a responsible and cautious driver. Yes, he does have business that is and needs to be conducted outside of the city, even if he was going home for lunch! My best to both parties the Chief and the Lady injured, may you both recover quickly.

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Escapee

Apr-03-13 12:05 PM

Reading baseball's comments I’m reminded of the quote: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks.". Numerous emotional attacks and wild irrational statements of “fact”, do not make an opinion any more correct or believable. It appears to me to be more an exercise of an agenda than a consideration of actual events.

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PhilJulian

Apr-02-13 10:43 PM

Maybe The Observer should adopt a policy of blocking writers who use this space for personal attacks. I enjoy reading the opinions of contributors and everyone is entitled to freedom of speech but that does not include defamation.

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hamus1

Apr-02-13 5:54 PM

See the hedline police chief injured in accident, the lady had a broken bone and had to be operated on the next day. But the chief was walking around the crash site talking to someone on his cell as I understand it. How about another headline woman injured in crash, while chief walks away.

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-02-13 4:41 PM

PHIL JULIAN: Traffic CSI expert.

FYI for all rational readers: You can cave in a front end going 35 mph.

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-02-13 4:32 PM

Phil, it's dinner time at the home. Start making your way down to the cafeteria

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PhilJulian

Apr-02-13 3:46 PM

Haveaniceday - are you afraid to reveal your identity? I am not declaring anyone to be guilty of anything. However, given the extensive damages there MAY HAVE BEEN SPEEDING OR WRECKLESS DRIVING INVOLVED and I don't believe anyone should be above the law. So, stop with the insults and deal with the facts or SHUT UP!

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Mutiny

Apr-02-13 1:04 PM

All finger pointing aside Rt. 60 is a dangerous place to travel.

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-02-13 10:39 AM

Phil, can you read? If so please scroll down to my First comment where I ask the peanut gallery (you and others) )to stop making accusations and let the investigators do their jobs. My god Phil, you think you are an expert on everything, which now includes accident scene reconstruction. You used to have credibility. I frequently agree with you. But now you sound like a grumpy old man/conspiracy theory wacko.

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PhilJulian

Apr-01-13 5:22 PM

BASEBALL AND HAVEANICEDAY - Your comments appear to be those of biased sources. having observed the extensive damage to both vehicles it is my opinion that there may have been speeding involved. Since the lady was in the process of turning the corner it is not likely she was going very fast. At the very least there needs to be an investigation of the incident to determine if any laws were broken. I am assuming no one is above the law (not even the chief of police). However, an unbiased professional report would certainly be in order and that report should be made public. As for the insults and sarcasm, why don't you both reveal your true identity so the public can decide if you are speaking from a biased position. What is your business or personal relationship to the chief. Please give us your names.

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hamus1

Mar-31-13 3:04 PM

Yes lets the state police do their work, but not sure if it can been done now, the clean was very rapid dur to the high traffic volume on the route. However did they take measurements to determine speed like we see all the time, like so and so was travelling at a certain speed because we see the measurements of the tires slide. Interesasting the concern for thew chief, but not a lot mentioned about the person that was injured and required surgery. Being a great chief should have nothing to do with this accident in my uneducated opinion about recks and crashes. 20 x 30 in speed may produce a 50 mph crash but that is he question what was the speed of the car going south on 60? We know the speed at which the lady made the turn could not have been fast. At any rate it would be interesting to see what measurements were taken and how it all comes out in the wash. Just saying.

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mattdillon

Mar-31-13 10:52 AM

But a side note, he is an excellent police chief.

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mattdillon

Mar-31-13 8:44 AM

Baseball..lets be honest here. You really believe he was on his way to a meeting? Your brother..oops I mean the chief was on his way home for lunch.

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HaveANiceDay

Mar-30-13 6:12 PM

HYPOCRITE ALERT!!! PHIL JULIAN JUST SAID I WAS OVERLY SARCASTIC!!!!!!

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baseball

Mar-30-13 4:48 PM

Escape, do you have a problem reading, the Chief was heading to a meeting outside the City. There were also many witnesses to this accident, so there can be no unbiased report, get a grip!

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baseball

Mar-30-13 4:46 PM

Phil, its a huge blessing that you were never elected to any position! Voters have seen through your facade! You have a negative comment to just about everything. BTW Phil, you are sarcastic and insulting as well! Phil, you sound like someone with the Napoleon complex!

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Escapee

Mar-30-13 11:41 AM

Taxpayers have a right to know: What business did the chief have outside of Dunkirk? Where was he going? How long was he going to be outside of Dunkirk? The chief using a city vehicle is everyone’s business. There should be no expectation of any privacy. Even the appearance of any impropriety must be avoided at all times when using taxpayer resources. If you think there should be privacy at work you should be working in the private sector. I believe the taxpaying public deserve to know exactly why their vehicle was even in that intersection. If I wrecked a piece of my company’s equipment, I sure as heck would be expected to explain SPECIFICALLY what I was doing, why I was doing it, what went wrong.

And I don’t expect an unbiased report of this incident to be produced by any law enforcement agency. I’ve personally seen how police, (not all but some) “protect their own” enough times that I believe most police think of the public as “them against us”.

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PhilJulian

Mar-30-13 10:14 AM

BASEBALL AND HAVEANICEDAY - Is there any subject you can discuss without being insulting and sarcastic? If you don't like my comments DON'T READ THEM!

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baseball

Mar-29-13 7:17 PM

Phil, you are the real jerk, always a negative person you are, you have a lot of "short" comings!

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HaveANiceDay

Mar-29-13 7:13 PM

Hey Phil, did you even read what I wrote? I said to leave it to the investigators. YOU on the other hand are implying that the police chief is somehow at fault and there is some kind of forthcoming coverup. Don't turn this around on me. You made your bed with your stupid accusation. Now go lie in it.

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PhilJulian

Mar-29-13 6:07 PM

BASEBALL AND HAVEANICEDAY - sounds to me you are drawing conclusions without knowing all the facts - so WHO IS THE REAL JERK?

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gg22901

Mar-29-13 4:57 PM

After hearing all the comments from all the "Accident Investigators" on here...I think I will just leave that up to the State Police. I have lived in Las Vegas and presently live in Charlottesville, VA and I can tell Dunkirk, NY one thing...you are very lucky to have such a professional Chief of Police that you have in Chief Ortolano!!!!! I can only wish Chief Ortolano the best and a speedy recovery!!!!!

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cno1991

Mar-29-13 2:54 PM

What disgusts me most with the comments on the page is, everyone's missing the big point. Both individuals involved in the accident have families, people who got scary phone calls yesterday morning to be informed of the accident. And everyone comes on here to argue invalid points when people's lives were possibly on the line yesterday. Seems very petty and selfish to me.

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225522

Mar-29-13 12:40 PM

So everyone knows this is a crash site intersection....so slow down because most people know how crowded this is. Look ahead and anticipate! Still might crash even then. Also correct spelling is: too.

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