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Dunkirk police chief injured in accident

March 29, 2013

The recent rash of accidents in the local area continued Thursday and this time it involved a city of Dunkirk police vehicle....

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hamus1

Mar-29-13 7:40 AM

Interesting accident. If the lady was turning left which means she had to be going fairly slow, but the extent of the damage means the other car must have been going fairly fast. It's a really bad spot espcially with the rate of speed some people going through that intersection. If the car going south on 60 was at the light waiting for the light to turn then the speed would have been slow, but it appears the light was green. Perhaps it was green for both, if that was the case then it probably becomes a control issue. Since I have seen many close calls there I was "just wondering".

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roberta2

Mar-29-13 8:18 AM

Thats a full size Ford a beefie car---looks like someone was moveing a little to fast-???

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commentor

Mar-29-13 8:29 AM

I'm sure it will be blamed on the woman. It's obvious if she was turning she was either stopped or going very slow. The chief had to be going a good clip.

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joew

Mar-29-13 9:43 AM

Have any of you seen the damage to a vehicle that hits something solid going even 30MPH? The sheet metal on modern day vehicles is very thin and it doesn't take much to do heavy damage.

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wiseup

Mar-29-13 9:48 AM

Hey, who of you have ever investigated an accident? You try to judge without knowing any of the facts. SHAME on you! Know what the drag factor of the road was? That's what is used to determine speed.

The vehicle turning did not have to be going slow and there is no Proof the chief was speeding. But all of you who live in glass houses are trying to blame the Chief because he's a COP. That's plain dishonest.

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HaveANiceDay

Mar-29-13 9:54 AM

Lots of experts here. I can't tell you how many times someone made a left turn in front of me to "make the green light" while I was driving through the intersection. Why don't we let the investigators do their jobs and leave the peanut gallery out of it

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PhilJulian

Mar-29-13 10:04 AM

It is a dangerous intersection but one thing is certain - the full story will never be made public!

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baseball

Mar-29-13 10:56 AM

Just shut up Phil, what a jerk!

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sonya71

Mar-29-13 11:03 AM

So glad that you only care about whos to blame. I wish both the chief and the woman involved a speedy recovery and no long term effects.

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baseball

Mar-29-13 11:34 AM

Do you people know what collision speed is?? One car going 30mph the other 20 mph, gives a collision speed of 50mph--- lot of damage done there! Plenty of witnesses also gave statements, the Chief was not at fault, but "short" sighted people like Phil will claim a cover up, consider the source!

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HaveANiceDay

Mar-29-13 12:05 PM

Phil why don't you stick to what you know best, which is....................................... umm...............wait I'm thinking.........uhh........

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225522

Mar-29-13 12:40 PM

So everyone knows this is a crash site intersection....so slow down because most people know how crowded this is. Look ahead and anticipate! Still might crash even then. Also correct spelling is: too.

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cno1991

Mar-29-13 2:54 PM

What disgusts me most with the comments on the page is, everyone's missing the big point. Both individuals involved in the accident have families, people who got scary phone calls yesterday morning to be informed of the accident. And everyone comes on here to argue invalid points when people's lives were possibly on the line yesterday. Seems very petty and selfish to me.

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gg22901

Mar-29-13 4:57 PM

After hearing all the comments from all the "Accident Investigators" on here...I think I will just leave that up to the State Police. I have lived in Las Vegas and presently live in Charlottesville, VA and I can tell Dunkirk, NY one thing...you are very lucky to have such a professional Chief of Police that you have in Chief Ortolano!!!!! I can only wish Chief Ortolano the best and a speedy recovery!!!!!

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PhilJulian

Mar-29-13 6:07 PM

BASEBALL AND HAVEANICEDAY - sounds to me you are drawing conclusions without knowing all the facts - so WHO IS THE REAL JERK?

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HaveANiceDay

Mar-29-13 7:13 PM

Hey Phil, did you even read what I wrote? I said to leave it to the investigators. YOU on the other hand are implying that the police chief is somehow at fault and there is some kind of forthcoming coverup. Don't turn this around on me. You made your bed with your stupid accusation. Now go lie in it.

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baseball

Mar-29-13 7:17 PM

Phil, you are the real jerk, always a negative person you are, you have a lot of "short" comings!

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PhilJulian

Mar-30-13 10:14 AM

BASEBALL AND HAVEANICEDAY - Is there any subject you can discuss without being insulting and sarcastic? If you don't like my comments DON'T READ THEM!

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Escapee

Mar-30-13 11:41 AM

Taxpayers have a right to know: What business did the chief have outside of Dunkirk? Where was he going? How long was he going to be outside of Dunkirk? The chief using a city vehicle is everyone’s business. There should be no expectation of any privacy. Even the appearance of any impropriety must be avoided at all times when using taxpayer resources. If you think there should be privacy at work you should be working in the private sector. I believe the taxpaying public deserve to know exactly why their vehicle was even in that intersection. If I wrecked a piece of my company’s equipment, I sure as heck would be expected to explain SPECIFICALLY what I was doing, why I was doing it, what went wrong.

And I don’t expect an unbiased report of this incident to be produced by any law enforcement agency. I’ve personally seen how police, (not all but some) “protect their own” enough times that I believe most police think of the public as “them against us”.

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baseball

Mar-30-13 4:46 PM

Phil, its a huge blessing that you were never elected to any position! Voters have seen through your facade! You have a negative comment to just about everything. BTW Phil, you are sarcastic and insulting as well! Phil, you sound like someone with the Napoleon complex!

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baseball

Mar-30-13 4:48 PM

Escape, do you have a problem reading, the Chief was heading to a meeting outside the City. There were also many witnesses to this accident, so there can be no unbiased report, get a grip!

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HaveANiceDay

Mar-30-13 6:12 PM

HYPOCRITE ALERT!!! PHIL JULIAN JUST SAID I WAS OVERLY SARCASTIC!!!!!!

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mattdillon

Mar-31-13 8:44 AM

Baseball..lets be honest here. You really believe he was on his way to a meeting? Your brother..oops I mean the chief was on his way home for lunch.

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mattdillon

Mar-31-13 10:52 AM

But a side note, he is an excellent police chief.

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hamus1

Mar-31-13 3:04 PM

Yes lets the state police do their work, but not sure if it can been done now, the clean was very rapid dur to the high traffic volume on the route. However did they take measurements to determine speed like we see all the time, like so and so was travelling at a certain speed because we see the measurements of the tires slide. Interesasting the concern for thew chief, but not a lot mentioned about the person that was injured and required surgery. Being a great chief should have nothing to do with this accident in my uneducated opinion about recks and crashes. 20 x 30 in speed may produce a 50 mph crash but that is he question what was the speed of the car going south on 60? We know the speed at which the lady made the turn could not have been fast. At any rate it would be interesting to see what measurements were taken and how it all comes out in the wash. Just saying.

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