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Building recommendation causes concern

April 12, 2013

BROCTON — The devil may be in the detail. The discussions about the merger of Brocton and Westfield school districts are just beginning....

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Captain

Apr-12-13 6:22 AM

Westfield BOE president Jeff Graebell later added, "If we think about it, there may be solutions."

Opposed to what, not having a well thought out plan and just wing it?

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bulldog10

Apr-12-13 7:40 AM

No matter what the solution is on a suject half of the people are not going to like it. Get over it, take the vote and move forward with what you have.

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bob1957

Apr-12-13 7:47 AM

Captain what a detailed and expansive BLOG. WOW impressive in its depth and detailed in it's response. BOE Member Graebell was on target you are not. Your response IS NONSEQUETOR.

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shofuh

Apr-12-13 7:48 AM

Never going to happen.

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popawheelie

Apr-12-13 8:24 AM

in the end a plan will be worked out that saves all the administrators and teachers jobs. I think administrators being in charge of these kind of changes cripples the possibilities. so we are going to bus kids all over and back and forth, great plan! we all have to get real ripley, brocton, westfield, mayville need to all merge and build one school somewhere in the middle. get ahead of the problem, by the time their plan is fully installed it's going to be the same problem all over again. its clear this county needs big changes in educational as well as many other area's, the few taxpayer's left deserve it. get ahead of the problem well ahead

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Christopher

Apr-12-13 9:05 AM

And of course, as with all of these discussions, it comes down to buildings or mascots.

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Christopher

Apr-12-13 9:08 AM

And, I might add, one of my pet peeves relative to education, the creation of "Middle School" with the added expenses of it's own Administration, becomes an issue. drop 6th grade to Elementary, add 7th and 8th to High School, call it Jr. High but without any added Administration.

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wilbmeister

Apr-12-13 9:35 AM

The middle school and high school must be in the same building to save money and provide better opportunities for students. There are too many teachers who teach both MS and HS. If they go to different buildings there will be no savings in staffing costs.

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commentor

Apr-12-13 10:09 AM

Sounds like the Brocton/Fredonia merger. Brocton will NEVER agree to close their building. The best solution is close Brocton house everyone in Westfield and rename the school with neither Brocton or Westfield in the name. NO MERGERS WILL EVER HAPPEN UNTIL THEY ARE FORCED BY NEW YORK STATE.

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Captain

Apr-12-13 10:16 AM

Oh, that's right, bob1957 has reminded us avg peons in a previous post that as public ED employees, he and his colleagues have the unique intelligence needed to teach kids, thus attempting to justify their unsustainable salaries.

Aside from state mandates and uncontrollable health care costs, bob's self-aggrandizement is a big reason why public schools are in the financial mess they're in.

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THINKLONGTEREM

Apr-12-13 10:16 AM

Brocton. Westfield. Ripley. Chautauqua Lake merge move to CL building be done with it great opportunity for the kids and towns move on get over the crap be happy

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STUPADASO

Apr-12-13 10:51 AM

IF THE STATE BUILDS A NEW BUILDING, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH 2 OLD BUILDINGS? I THOUGHT COMBINING THE 2 SCHOOLS WOULD SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY? HOW MUCH DO YOU SAVE WHEN YOU BUILD NEW SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED?

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Captain

Apr-12-13 10:56 AM

btw, bob1957, you disappoint. The correct term is non sequitur.

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wiseup

Apr-12-13 11:02 AM

Why build another school when you algready have two? What a waste of taxpayer money-how stupid!

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Donnar

Apr-12-13 12:01 PM

How many additions/ renovations has Brocton gone through in the last 20 years? It would seem most feasible to house the kids there?

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1Voice

Apr-12-13 12:02 PM

All these comments about not building a new are very true. And if you were at the meeting last night it was clear that most of the board members agree that building a new building is out of the question. Now lets stop worrying about all the negatives and focus on the positive things that we can gain by merging. And most importantly its about what is Best for the Kids and their Education.

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1Voice

Apr-12-13 12:11 PM

commentor wrote: "Sounds like the Brocton/Fredonia merger. Brocton will NEVER agree to close their building. The best solution is close Brocton house everyone in Westfield and rename the school with neither Brocton or Westfield in the name."

question? Why do you say to close Brocton? and further more, who cares what the name is going to be at this point there are much Bigger things to focus on at this point.

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Captain

Apr-12-13 1:39 PM

1Voice: in response to your first post, this is what NYC mayor Bloomberg had to say on public schools (posted on JD's latest blog):

"It's like the school system. It's designed for the people that work there...not the people they're supposed to help."

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concerned

Apr-12-13 5:52 PM

This will only work if you keep the teachers union out of planning.

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commentor

Apr-12-13 6:25 PM

1voice..no brain let me explain. The issue with closing a building is losing their identity. If they change the name the issue is gone. As for why Westfield...because Brocton is a dump!! If it's "for the kids" they deserve a nicer location.

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Captain

Apr-12-13 6:41 PM

commentor: don't hold back...tell us what you really think of Brocton.

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Bizkit

Apr-12-13 11:29 PM

Chautauqua county has 55 public schools, with 22,205 students. There are 2,020 full time staff members, 54 full time principals and 12 full time assistant principals. Also if you add in the janitors, cafeteria staff, bus drivers etc etc... There are less the 10 students per staff member. This is ridiculous. Action needs to be taken now. Not in 3,5 or ten years.

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Captain

Apr-13-13 7:25 AM

Bizkit: you forgot to mention there are 18 separate school districts within Chat Co, and taxpayers are footing the bill for each district superintendent.

In Buffalo, there are approx 34,000 students, which is 12,000 MORE kids than all of Chat Co. Buffalo has just one (1) Supt who earns $220K per/yr, while here in CC, we pay OVER 10X that amt to 18 supts! Think about it. Chat Co has 12,000 LESS students than the city of Buffalo, yet we pay 10X more than Buffalo does b/c we have 17 more Supts! Of course this doesn't include perks & bennies.

I'd say Mayor Bloomberg's opinion on Public ED costs is dead on point.

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THINKLONGTEREM

Apr-13-13 8:15 AM

why does everyone think wetfield is nicer again I say send them all to CLCS and be done with it it updated it has room to grow it is first rate for all the kids needs. most schools are sending kids right by there now with BOCES follows Ripleys lead and do what is best for the kids and it will sav emoney combine these schools and lets give all of us a fighting chance get the state to force us to do this if everyone took the emotion out of this and stepped back they would see this is the best and only way to make our part of the state livable and meet the educational needs of our kids just merge the schools and enjoy life

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whoseits

Apr-13-13 8:27 AM

TO COMMENTOR; YOU CALL BROCTON A DUMP THATS HOW MUCH YOU KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR HOUSE.WE HAVE A NEW SCHOOL THAT THE STATE AND TAXPAYERS PAID 26 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH MAKES BROCTON A FIRST CLASS EDUCATIONAL ICON. YOUR A JERK AN I SAY IT LIKE IT IS.

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