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Silver Creek man charged with SAFE Act violations to head back to court

April 14, 2013

SILVER CREEK – Further court proceedings in the case against Benjamin M. Wassell for violations under the NYS SAFE Act will continue April 17....

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DarkStar

Apr-17-13 12:32 PM

Donnar scores a direct hit, did the undercover officer say "oh by the way, I have a felony conviction" or something far less clear? For example if they said in passing "yeah, I was convicted of hitting my e-wife but it was a lie and I'm glad I don't have to deal that that B---- anymore," how many people would know, or even suspect, that he had a felony conviction?

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Donnar

Apr-15-13 12:50 PM

1.I'd like to hear Judeyes opinion on brian surgery. Obviously, she has little to no knowledge of the subject but I'm sure she has some strong opinions about the procedure. 2.To all you Matlock wannabe's; unless you are privy to more information about how Mr. Wassell was informed that the buyer was a "felon" than I, why don't we let the courts decide. The article simply stated he was informed. i.e Was it implied in passing? 3.If the Law had the required comment period like it was supposed to, maybe more people would've been aware the we were losing our rights. But since it got passed during the night I'm willing to bet alot of people didn't know. Now please proceed with the gun nut/Mike davis minion comments.

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msgtroyfoster

Apr-15-13 10:19 AM

This case should be handled by the newly developed VETERANS COURT. To make an example of a disabled veteran of the recent war is deplorable. If you had any inkling of what this vet went through with traumatic brain injury , you would all be changing your comments. Don't jail a vet who was trying to support his family the only way he knew how as a trained US Marine to kill the enemy. Do injured war veterans deserve special handling and special courts of law ? YES. VETERANS COURT. THIS MARINE WAS TARGETED WITHOUT A DOUBT AND ENTRAPMENT WAS USED.

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Christopher

Apr-14-13 8:02 PM

Joew, an attempt to sell a gun to a known felon was illegal BEFORE the NY Safe Act!! And everybody knew it! That's the issue, NOT the NY Safe Act, despite the headlines. The Soldier/Marine issue has nothing to do with any of it.

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joew

Apr-14-13 4:49 PM

Christopher-again saying I was against those with disability from holding a job is not true period!!!!Of course you were a solider,no question. Mr wassell is however a Marine! Your last sentence tells me that perhaps 95% of people were not aware of the stupid law(only 9 days old) as well and maybe just maybe "unknowingly" made a honest error.

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Christopher

Apr-14-13 3:59 PM

Roadglide, "The mother in sandy hook was an absolute moron and shouldn't have had guns near her son and should have had him committed" On THAT we're in agreement but for one thing, and I stated that clearly in my last column, in most states today, there is no place for long term commitment unless a crime has been committed. Allowing him the access to the guns was just nuts, or a mother not facing reality.

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commentor

Apr-14-13 2:36 PM

Breaking the law is breaking the law. If he did this he deserves to go to jail. As for the rats if you saw someone commit murder or a robbery would you turn them in or not want to be a rat?? If someone in your family was shot and killed by a felon who bought an illegal gun I bet you would have a totally different opinion. If the mother in Sandy Hook should have committed her son and not let him have access to her guns I ask you what is the difference. It is a person giving access to someone who should not be allowed to have a weapon!!!!

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Roadglide

Apr-14-13 2:04 PM

Ripley we have to keep the duct tape. We Can use it to shut Judeye up for at least a little while

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American

Apr-14-13 2:00 PM

Don't forget WD40 also.

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RipleyResident

Apr-14-13 1:55 PM

I forgot duct tape, too

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RipleyResident

Apr-14-13 1:45 PM

OK, I had to stop reading the comments when I got to Judeye's first, so forgive me if I missed something between here and there.

JUDEYE - You have no idea what you are talking about and in these forums you have been told AT LEAST THREE times by me alone what guns should be allowed.

Guess what else was developed for military use. Jeeps, GPS, freeze drying, cargo pants, microwaves, and computers. Should we get rid of all these things too?

Knock your crap off, you admit you have no idea what you are talking about and just keep repeating the same thing every time somebody says gun.

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Christopher

Apr-14-13 1:45 PM

Joew, I got the idea about your attitude about people on Disability holding jobs from another thread about just that subject. You were very clear on that issue. As usual, you split hairs and talk out of both sides of your mouth when it suits you. I don't need the clarification on "soldier" marine". Look up a dictionary definition and you'll see soldier as someone who serves in the military. I consider all service people to be soldiers first, Marines, Army, etc., etc. second. I was a Paratrooper specifically, does that mean I'm not a soldier? Wasted argument in an effort to make yourself look superior. My saying this individual was breaking the law by attempting to sell a weapon to a felon is no different than you and others saying it's a BS case. Of course it's in the "alleged" stage at this point. And I still say it was not well known by 95% of even the posters to these pages that there was a $500 "bounty" on turning in neighbors for illegal weapons

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Roadglide

Apr-14-13 1:27 PM

Christopher you get points on the roadglide observation. A vest and 10 pins no sorry but in another life absolutely. You could bump into me and you wouldn't even realize it. (1) stupid no I don't believe so. Get sick of Judeye's round about what do we do, why do we need guns etc bs. The woman that bought guns for the felon that killed the fireman should be strung up. Getting lied to by a BCI that he was a felon is crap. Those are my feelings. A bayonet lug, collapsible stock,'and flash surpressor that make felony charges are absolute bs. The safe act is smoke and mirrors save the children. A waste of time, money, making legal people outlaws. And I am a bit miffed as you can tell. But with that I apologize to you on the vet thing. I think I would disagree on all your gun thoughts but you are right it's your opinion even if it is wrong. The mother in sandy hook was an absolute moron and shouldn't have had guns near her son and should have had him committed

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joew

Apr-14-13 1:26 PM

(cont)ate the 6th Amendment as well!(figure that one out Mr MI)

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joew

Apr-14-13 1:21 PM

Christopher-first off I have no idea of where you came up with the "I am against someone with disabilities holding a job" That is just not true! All I was trying to convey is that given Mr Wassells injury perhaps Mr Cambria will use that as a defense. The law(as stupid as it is)was no doubt violated but again given the injury to Mr Wassell,did he "knowingly"(look up the definition)break the(stupid law? My other question was simply one of curiosity that being how did the law become aware of the sale? Now in the "break the news" category,the "rat on your neighbor hotline"has been around well before the stupid gun law! One more point if I may,Mr Wassell was not a solider Christopher,he was(and always will be)a MARINE. And just to clarify the "two faced" comment Christopher,nowhere did I say he is or isn't guilty of violating the law!The allegations/charges are alleged! By saying the man is guilty that means you are now attempting to abrog

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wiseup

Apr-14-13 1:05 PM

Give the Vet a break. NY has a stupid law that will be repealed soon. Stupid liberals!

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American

Apr-14-13 12:31 PM

hatful* should be hateful

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American

Apr-14-13 12:16 PM

I would call anyone turning in a friend, neighbor or family member for the bounty a judas at the best and would put them in the category of da*ned near being a traitor to those they live with and around. Anyone who would turn in one of these people for the bounty doesn't deserve to be called anything more that a hatful, resentful piece of ****e!

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Christopher

Apr-14-13 12:11 PM

" so what's the difference here" He was wrong about going on with the sale after being told the lie that the cop was a convicted felon. As far as the bounty that has been in effect for about a year now, it is just coming to light though. And none of this makes the un-SAFE ACT a good law because it isn't." Whether the law is good enough has nothing to do with his arrest for trying to sell a gun to a felon. And the bounty may have existed, but nobody seemed to know about it until after this case. And I'd say anyone turning in a person trying to sell guns to a felon is a pretty good citizen. The same with possessing stolen weapons. Wouldn't you agree? More Obfuscation. Is that all you people do when you don't have an intelligent reply, reply with non-relevant "facts"?

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Christopher

Apr-14-13 12:07 PM

Oh, and Roadglide, MORE OBFUSCATION, Judeye never said that Machineguns were legal, she asked a rhetorical question, which you're either 1)too stupid to see or 2)you knew what she said and are trying to twist it around. I'm betting on number 2.

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Christopher

Apr-14-13 12:04 PM

"First of all Judeye please let me know when machine guns become legal in NYS. I will be more than happy to buy one and I will even let you shoot it for free. Christopher as far as your views on the 2 nd amendment and gun owner ship you are a sad excuse for a vet so get rid of your hat." Oh, I FORGOT, Veterans aren't supposed to have differing opinions, we're all supposed to march to the right wing goose step. And another 2nd Amendment nut avoids the real legal issue in this case, as usual. It's called Obfuscation. "American" at least admits the guy was wrong to continue the sale to a felon, I'm shocked. As for getting rid of my hat, Roadglide, I earned the right to wear it, unlike half the basic training warriors running around the area on motorcycles with enough pins and patches on their vests for 10 people. You might be one of those, perhaps?

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Roadglide

Apr-14-13 11:44 AM

First of all Judeye please let me know when machine guns become legal in NYS. I will be more than happy to buy one and I will even let you shoot it for free. Christopher as far as your views on the 2 nd amendment and gun owner ship you are a sad excuse for a vet so get rid of your hat.

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American

Apr-14-13 11:33 AM

" so what's the difference here" He was wrong about going on with the sale after being told the lie that the cop was a convicted felon. As far as the bounty that has been in effect for about a year now, it is just coming to light though. And none of this makes the un-SAFE ACT a good law because it isn't.

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Christopher

Apr-14-13 11:07 AM

Joew, weren't you just complaining on another post about people with Disability holding down jobs? Where the lawyers go has nothing to do with the truth. How anyone knew has little to do with it either, although I hate to break the news to you that the "bounty" issue came up after this case. And clearly every gun supporter on here refuses to address the one key issue, and that is that this man was ILLEGALLY selling a gun to what he thought was a FELON!! Now, Joew, I know you and a lot of your supporters are staunch Law and Order types, so what's the difference here? The fact that he was a soldier? The fact he was wounded? None of that makes breaking the law OK. This guy could have been selling a weapon to a very dangerous criminal, and he obviously didn't care. He should go to jail, as all of you Law and Order types always demand for other law breakers, no exceptions, right? For God's sake, do any of you see how two-faced you all are? Must be nice to switch dogmatic principl

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American

Apr-14-13 10:47 AM

"What do you suggest to try to reduce gun violence in our Country?" Get rid of liberals. It seems a majority of the mass shootings were done by those who lean left a lot.

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