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One dead, one suspect sought in Boston bombing

April 19, 2013

WATERTOWN, Mass....

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DKexpat

Apr-19-13 9:09 AM

What do you do with animals like these two brothers? (Well, the one that’s still loose.) Try to “reason with them” and to “see the error of their ways” and hope they surrender to authorities?

The ongoing manhunt illustrates the importance of 2nd Amendment rights. While "sheltering in place (perhaps with small children in the house), would you rather be cowering in a bedroom with a steak knife or sitting in your living room with a shotgun and sidearm?

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Dcronlg

Apr-19-13 9:48 AM

Of course, of course, of course -- use fear, fear, fear of a couple of homey Asian terrorists in Boston to politicize and push for unbridled 2nd amendments rights because -- so, so much of the US outside of Boston, including this county, are prime targets...

Forget the fact that multiple police forces and resources throughout Boston were brilliantly coordinated in the pursuit and handling of the situation -- one sacrificing his life, the others protecting citizens, pursuing the preps, etc. -- but NOOOOOO, "this illustrates the importance of the 2nd amendment...".

Gun-crazy pathetic, Gun-crazy cowardly, Gun-crazy ignorant and Gun-crazy shameful beyond belief.

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DKexpat

Apr-19-13 10:06 AM

Ah, Dc - you're approaching Steiner-like status...

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DKexpat

Apr-19-13 11:01 AM

If the NYS Police had decided to lock-down Olean and go door-to-door looking for the killers, had you known they were on the loose somewhere in your neighborhood and looking for a place to hide, would you have felt better with a butter knife in your hand or a gun to protect your family?

Gun ownership and rights, for better or worse, are ingrained in American culture. I agree with closing the gun show loophole for non-licensed sellers because that’s a source of felon- or straw-purchased weapons. But I don’t agree with a nationwide registration system which might someday turn into a nationwide confiscation program.

Isn’t that a libertarian view - oftentimes espoused by liberals - for other personal rights?

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American

Apr-19-13 11:09 AM

Hey DX I believe DC has surpassed Steiner now. Steiner still gets the odd one right.

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Abomination

Apr-19-13 3:19 PM

DC...they're not Asian they're muslims. That's a shocker.

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Abomination

Apr-19-13 3:19 PM

DC...they're not Asian they're muslims. That's a shocker.

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Dcronlg

Apr-19-13 6:20 PM

DK -- its the use of FUD (fear-uncertainty-doubt) with wholly unrelated incidents like this, to justify an unrelated political point.

The plain fact is, despite the ingrained gun culture of this country, and the 'a gun is the best defender and deterrent didn't stop these two guys at all. It didn't stop the Indians from attacking the frontier. It didn't stop all sorts of crime in the west. It hasn't stopped or deterred all sorts of random violence throughout our history.

It didn't stop those four guys from Elmira. It didn't stop the guy from NoVA in Clymer. It hasn't stopped random violence from occurring in this very rural county.

Its a wholly fallacious argument to claim or believe that more guns will stop violence from guns. And worse, its pathetic.

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Dcronlg

Apr-19-13 6:25 PM

Abdomination: Chechnya is in Asia. Check a map.

How about checking a map on America, as both these guys were US citizens -- like Timothy McVeigh --- like you & me...

Too hard?? Better yet -- check a map that says Muslimstan, or Islamotopia or some other bigoted, demarcation of your simplistic intellect.

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American

Apr-19-13 6:48 PM

"He and his brother's family is originally from Chechnya, a volatile and once war-torn southern Russian republic" "In an interview with The New York Times, the suspects' father said Tamerlan was unable to become a U.S. citizen because he was arrested for hitting his girlfriend, and that he traveled to Russia last year to live for six months and renew his passport" His brother was a naturalized citizen that took the oath on Sept 11,2012.

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American

Apr-19-13 6:49 PM

Sorry but both were not U.S. citizens and neither one was born in the U.S.A.

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American

Apr-19-13 9:23 PM

"Just before 9 p.m. the Boston Police Department tweeted that the suspect is alive and in custody. Officials later confirmed the suspect is in fact 19-year-old college student Dzhokar Tsarnaev"

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DKexpat

Apr-19-13 10:05 PM

Sorry, Dc, you can run and hide in the closet while the rest of us defend our families,

That's what's pathetic...

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stangv8

Apr-20-13 7:41 AM

You realize there are areas in Chautauqua County when at times the nearest law enforcement is 30 minutes away? You add snow and ice to that equation and some folks are basically on their own. That’s why folks who live in the very rural areas most always have some type of firearm in their homes. Unfortunately, there are people like DC would have disarmed them and leave them at the mercy of the predators.

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judeye

Apr-20-13 7:47 AM

DKexpat..all you say about right to own guns might be correct. However, I know of NO one anywhere who is advocating taking all guns away. There is NO law in our Congress that wants to take away ALL guns or ammo. Only SOME type of weapons and some kinds of ammo.

I bet our shotgun will work just as well as anyone's 'assault' weapon to keep someone out of our house.

Did I miss your point?

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judeye

Apr-20-13 7:50 AM

But I don’t agree with a nationwide registration system which might someday turn into a nationwide confiscation program.

Like the nationwide registration system for our cars. They are planning someday to confiscate all of them. Guess they just have not gotten around to it yet.

This type of thinking to me, has NO logic at all.

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judeye

Apr-20-13 7:53 AM

The one brother is an American citizen. As such does this make it domestic terrorism?

He clearly must be tried as an American, with the same rights and protections that our justice system gives to all of us citizens.

This is NOT a liberal idea. It is an American one.

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American

Apr-20-13 10:24 AM

Judeye looks this up if you don't believe there are some (the left) who want all guns gone Senator Feinstein says this " If I could've gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them -- Mr. and Mrs. America turn 'em all in -- I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here"

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American

Apr-20-13 10:29 AM

I believe it was the brother that the police killed that was the naturalized citizen judeye so the one still alive should be treated as the terrorist he is and locked in gitmo until a military tribunal can convict and sentence him.

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judeye

Apr-20-13 7:11 PM

"Federal investigators were waiting to question Tsarnaev, 19, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Chechen origin, hoping to uncover a motive for horrendous attacks that bookended a week of terror."

The one alive is the American citizen. But terrorist just the same as Tim McVeigh was. Yet, as he is a citizen, his rights and protections under our system of justice must be adhered to.

As for guns...really? I mean someone might have said that in the heat of an argument, but no one really wants that. Not anyone who knows the benefits of say hunting and the taste of good venison. And yes, even as a liberal, for protection.

But background checks..why would anyone be against this?

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American

Apr-20-13 7:27 PM

Doesn't matter why she said it. But it is her belief and what she would hope to see. We don't need any new gun laws. How about enforcing the 1000" that are already on the books. Including those about background checks. All any new laws are is feel good laws. Useless but they make some feel good. Sorry I had the brothers backwards. My bad! As an American under the non PATRIOT ACT they can just send him to gitmo without reading rights or anything. That one of the benefits of our last president and continued by Obama. They do not need to use due process if they invoke that.

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