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Leadership begins in the schools

April 29, 2013

Schools should be centers for learning par excellence. Most school budget votes and board elections are to be held this year on May 21....

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Steiner

Apr-29-13 7:06 AM

I think the good doc misses it here. Schools so important ? i think not. ego centric entities bad ? that is the teachers union leadership for sure. Schools have become indoctrination centers for the democratic party.education did nothing for my work in the chemical field. there were only 2 pages in my organic text on the chemical industry and what it does. On the job experience and learning from the great chemists was the key. Of course, the libs, who run our educational system said we were all greedy and planet destroyers. Several successful people were college dropouts, making fortunes. greed again I suppose. The real test of our schools would be to have choice and let the people decide where to send their kids. we hear poll results again and again from the democrats on gun control, same sex stuff etc, but the dems ferociously fight any notion of choice, other than abortion. A bit ego centric eh Doc ?

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Steiner

Apr-29-13 7:51 AM

hey doc, if you expand your article to college, one could say the following. it cost a fortune,the graduates are mired in debt and unemployable or under employable. Any way you look at it, a formula for success to a democrat. It started with the public schools and then grew.Simply put, it does not work and costs a fortune.Like green energy .Costs greater than inflation and those greedy energy companies. only a democrat could call that a success.

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PR24601

Apr-29-13 8:11 AM

Education begins at home. Plain and simple. If success in school was tied to the quality of the educators and administrators, then inner city youths would test just as well as their higher class suburbian counterparts.

Instead of using the public school system as a mechanism to brainwash our youth with socialist/liberal/leftist ideas, it should simply be one more tool in creating well-rounded, life-educated children.

School is not the be-all and end-all. School should be there for teaching objective courses - math, economics, finance, history (w/o sociology), reading skills and literature, sciences.

The remainder of a child's education should come from life experience at home, with family, on vacation, in elective enrichment programs, and involvement in clubs, sports, music, or other self/family-chosen organizations.

We need to reduce the influence of public schools, eliminate waste within them, and stop throwing money at this "problem". The solution starts at home.

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Dcronlg

Apr-29-13 8:39 AM

Steinerdzzz and PR...maybe if you guys had attended school, studied and did the work, your lives and intellect would have markedly different.

Our institutions of public education and advanced learning have made this country into the dynamic nation it is -- warts and all. Countless millions and millions have availed themselves to these institutions and have had unparalleled success, enrichment and opportunity.

Some have taken advantage of it, like the good professor, and others...Steinerdzzz, PR, et al, well, the rest of the story...

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bob1957

Apr-29-13 9:41 AM

Reading the foolish comments of a few here is like listening to FOX news. Left leaning education blah, blah, blah. I concur with Dcronig, if YOU had availed yourselves of an education you might be more functional. I am sure your grades were low and your family didn't enforce learning as a lifestyle. The basis of this democratic republic is a well educated electorate and free libraries to make sure the information is available. Any comments from your ilk are nonsequetor.

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Donnar

Apr-29-13 10:42 AM

"Reading the foolish comments of a few here is like listening to FOX news. Left leaning education blah, blah, blah. I concur with Dcronig, if YOU had availed yourselves of an education you might be more functional. I am sure your grades were low and your family didn't enforce learning as a lifestyle. The basis of this democratic republic is a well educated electorate and free libraries to make sure the information is available. Any comments from your ilk are nonsequetor." Ya gotta love people of "Superior" intelligence that can't spell. Bob, the next time you try to sound intelligent...don't.

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commentor

Apr-29-13 10:56 AM

Hey Bob is this the word you were looking for.......non sequitur...LOL. Everything starts with parents at birth. What you instill in your children is what they become (most of the time). Education is also important, however, today there are too many bad teachers with too many agendas.

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DKexpat

Apr-29-13 1:14 PM

The concept of the family unit is “broken” in this country. Forget the old days – dad works & mom takes care of the kids – now we don’t even have mom & dad under one roof in far too many cases.

Let’s talk facts. (Let me play the race card without being racist.) According to the CDC, 40.8% of children in the US are born to single mothers, and the mother’s race skews the graph as follows:

White = 29% Hispanic = 53.4% Black = 72.5%

Is something wrong with that picture? I’ll surprise Dc here and agree with him. “In loco parentis” doesn’t work when so many households don’t have parents to instill basic values in children. It doesn’t work when teachers get sued for looking cross-eyed at someone. It doesn’t work when you’re playing warden rather than teaching. (Remember when the gym teacher could grab a punk by the front of the shirt and bounce him off a locker? That’d get you arrested today.)

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joew

Apr-29-13 2:55 PM

Bob-if what you say is true about a well educated electorate,could you please explain to me how the last election turned out the way it did?

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American

Apr-29-13 3:54 PM

No education required to vote for Obama and "your ilk". Just follow the party line and do as told.

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PR24601

Apr-29-13 5:19 PM

bob: "I concur with Dcronig, if YOU had availed yourselves of an education you might be more functional. I am sure your grades were low and your family didn't enforce learning as a lifestyle."

You derived THIS from my post? On the contrary, I had very good grades and had a strong family support structure. As did most of the other students that did well in school when I was there. Between personal experience and national statistics, it doesn't take a Ph.D. to figure out that family upbringing has something to do with academic performance. I'd say it's far more important than what you actually get from school itself.

Schools have an agenda, and this is flat wrong. It would be wrong if they had a right-leaning agenda. Public schools shouldn't be in the business of having "agendas" and molding youths' ideology. That's family responsibility initially, and transitions to the child determining it on their own.

Public school shouldn't be there for brainwashing pu

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Truthteller

Apr-29-13 5:22 PM

Commentor--examples? Or do we just accept your claim at face value!? Sounds like hot air, and it smells bad too.

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Truthteller

Apr-29-13 5:24 PM

American, since you're so cozy with "the party line," what is it? Summarize the Democratic platform of 2012. And then explain why the points are evil. Let's see how much you learned in English.

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Truthteller

Apr-29-13 5:25 PM

PR--You need examples too. What went on today, this month, this year, at the schools in Chautauqua County that constitutes a left-wing agenda? Remember, you need to be specific because it smells like hot air again.

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American

Apr-29-13 5:35 PM

In simple words for a simpleton like you truthteller. It means that you agree with whatever agenda they have. Pro-abortion, antigun, tax the rich more, hate the wealthy(unless they are democrats), blame the TEA Party for everything and thing OWS was the best(even though the terrorized people).

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Captain

Apr-29-13 8:24 PM

This letter reminds me...where has Dr Stephen Kershnar been?

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Truthteller

Apr-29-13 9:41 PM

This is surreal. I guess all that's left for me to do is wear my SIMPLETON red letters proudly and advise American to pick up a worthier FOX-news-endorsed cause, like, say, why there are only pink Easy-Bake ovens. Thanks for the warning. I always suspected my Quaker friends in OWS were packing bombs and AK's.

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Truthteller

Apr-29-13 9:43 PM

Oh, and enjoy donating your money to Exxon MObil American. They need it more than you. Doesn't it warm your applie pie American heart that GE pays NO taxes? By golly, it ought

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joew

Apr-30-13 7:01 AM

Truthteller-guess you are "cozy"with the party line especially the inaccurate oft posted line that says GE pays NO taxes. Someone has mislead you and I suspect I know who.

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Steiner

Apr-30-13 8:32 AM

Dc posts nothing but insults. hey dc and other posters who say i need an education, i attended college and graduated. You gave bought my chemical wonders in the store.you keep forgetting that in your govt worship. College literally did not prepare me for industry. Many posters say decriptive stuff with no facts. The libs love a dysfunctional family as Dk points out. it is a steady welfare stream and voters.hispanic and black are democratic voters. No amount of education will help them. they are hooked on govt money. The educational system is totally liberal, bob and donner . Poor reading skills or comprehension ? Public schools.. Witness the attacks by teachers unions on vouchers. did ya miss that dc,bob and donner ?

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Steiner

Apr-30-13 8:43 AM

hey truthteller, which is more valuable to society, our public schools or exxonmobil. Take a look at Hurricane sandy aftermath before you answer. Our inner city schools are nothing but pipelines to prison as i see on Tv. If you are stupid enough to vote democratic in a city then off to prison you should go. So libs, tell me the great value of such a system and its huge wrecking toll on society. Schools make things for life ? hardly as it came out of some private corp lab with some gifted guy working. These guys write the texts that the schools teach from. So libs, tell me how unlearned I am now. remember, you bought my stuff in the store ! Thats how unlearned i am libs . I learned from private sources, the guys who wrote the texts and made the chemicals. Of course they really did not build anything , correct liberals, the govt schools did ! What a joke you libs post. Private enterprise is everything, thats why westlunds article on taxing is right. The libs love stealing money

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Christopher

May-01-13 10:01 AM

Isn't it almost hysterically funny how people who do or say nothing that doesn't follow strict political party dogma are the first ones to accuse anyone they disagree with of doing that same thing? That of course would be Mikedavis, American, 1Laona, Joew, stangv8 and a couple of others. Now Steiner, that's a whole different category of dissent, more of a Mental health issue.

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hadenough

May-02-13 9:47 AM

Leadership begins in the school? Is the writer smoking kitty litter? Leadership begins in the HOME by the parents. It may be refined in the schools but leadership starts with mom and pop. Why is it that people think the schools are responsible for the way their kid turn out? Lazy parents? Drugged up parents? The family has been the basis for the way children have turned out before schools were were a part of life. This is just one more excuse to have the government take on the responsibility of raising your kids. And if the kid turns out bad that has nothing to do with the parents passed out, high on drugs, allowing the kids to walk the streets at all hours. This thinking is what is bringing down America. No one wants to take responsibility for their kids. But let the kid get caught stealing or shot by law enforcement and all of a sudden my kid is the best good upbringing. Get your butt off welfare and set the example. Of course those affected by this message cant read.

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DKexpat

May-02-13 5:24 PM

Agree with hadenough, and that also goes back to my earlier post of the CDC stats for babies born to single mothers:

White = 29% Hispanic = 53.4% Black = 72.5%

Is it any wonder, where there's no father figure or family unit, that the biggest problems are in schools with the greatest number of single-parent children?

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