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Both parties to blame for downfall

May 15, 2013

I’m not sure what world our politicians inhabit, but it’s not one the rest of us live in....

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stangv8

May-17-13 1:44 PM

Judeye, he didn't interpret nothing. What he did was change the words from penalty to tax.

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DKexpat

May-17-13 10:34 AM

One thing we seem to hear is “There’s no scientific consensus on the cause of global warming.”

Let’s examine that premise...

A study published this month looked at 11,994 peer-reviewed scientific abstracts/papers written by 29,083 authors in 1,980 different publications over 20 years.

97% – 97% – were in agreement: humans are the cause of global warming.

With that large a sample size and that high a percentage, it’s difficult to make the argument a few outliers or quacks are making it up. So while there is public controversy over climate change, in the scientific community one barely exists.

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judeye

May-17-13 8:03 AM

stangv8..it does tell me something.

It tells me that here in the USA we rely on our supreme court to interpret law, and define our constitutional rights.

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judeye

May-17-13 8:00 AM

Amazing that people still dispute scientific facts. Calling them made up, unreliable, etc

Meanwhile, there is no dispute that the temperature of the earth is increasing. There can be no dispute that the glaciers are melting, at faster rates than seen before. There is no dispute that we are seeing an increase in severe and extreme weather.

Yet, some insist on playing the fiddle while our planet is burning up. Keeping your heads in the sand will not protect you from the devastating affect that increase in co2 in our atmosphere and the resulting increased in temperatures will have on all of us.

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Grandaddy

May-16-13 2:53 PM

John Dickinson, in his revolutionary war song, wrote: “Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall!”

Patrick Henry used the phrase in his last public speech, given in March 1799. United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs.”

Today we see a very divided America, with each faction trying to blame the other for the empires failure.

It’s those*****entitlement, commie-loving liberals… No, no! It’s those war-mongering, money-grubbing conservatives…

with both sides unable to take an honest look at the problem…, which is the very title of this article!

Take action? There is no fix to our crumbling warrior empire, as some naively suggest… the US will follow in the decaying footsteps of other warrior empires and will begin breaking up, just like Rome and the USSR, within a decade or so… perhaps much sooner once the country goes bankrupt.

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DKexpat

May-16-13 2:34 PM

The interesting thing about the "tax" is the only mechanism in place to collect it is for the IRS to pull it from refunds due on your federal tax return. (They cannot bill you, lien anything, or otherwise collect.)

So if you withhold properly to “zero out” - or pay in each year - you can go insurance-free and never pay the penalty.

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stangv8

May-16-13 12:40 PM

Judeye, he had to reclassify the penalty as a tax to uphold it. That in itself should tell you something.

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joew

May-16-13 12:23 PM

Whatever you say there Al er I mean Judeye.

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PR24601

May-16-13 11:05 AM

Yep.. first time in HUMAN HISTORY. Oh goodness, sound the alarm. First off, scientific measurements have only been precise for the last 100 or so years. Second of all, who's to say the planet hasn't undergone similar changes in pre-historic times? Even while humans have inhabited the Earth.

The scientific community is given grants to come up with data that shows humans are causing "global warming". Or is it "climate change"? Or is it.. whatever the heck they're being paid to say it is?

We have "scientists" taking 100 years of true scientific data to make a conclusion about an Earth that's billions of years old. The rest of the data is theorized, hypothesized, or estimtated. A sample size of .0000001%. If I see one red grain of sand, do I assume every grain of sand in the world is red?

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judeye

May-16-13 10:09 AM

This is from TODAY'S NEWS...

Food Supply dwindles as climate heats up

Everest glaciers are melting

1 Million flee cyclone in Asia

Nightmare storm in Texas..

How many more before people wake up?

and this...

"Climate warming greenhouse gas reaches 400 parts per million for the first time in human history"

FIRST TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY

Wake up...Rise up..this real the time for action was yesterday..but now will have to do..and pray it is not too late...

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PR24601

May-16-13 8:16 AM

@judeye - it will actually become MORE expensive as time goes on. If the natural resources currently used dry up (doubtful for centuries) then alternative energy would be the only way left. Supply and demand would dictate that the cost for it soars.

The Earth has undergone changes for millions of years, and always comes out on top. Salt Lake is there because at one point sea water was in Utah. This could suggest there was a long melting period in the past where waters made their way well inland.

Nature will win. Droughts, floods, and storms are the way of life on this planet. The inhabitants will adapt and societies will shift as necessary. The Libs think they are "saving the world", an arrogant proposition considering the world has done just fine on its own.

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judeye

May-16-13 8:00 AM

stangv8...who calls it an unconstitutional law? Oh..that is right..those who never went to law school..those who never studied our history...

By the way...you all do understand that we already pay for those who do not have health insurance. We pay every time they are seen in an er rather than a dr office. Funny how those who yell the loudest about personal responsibility..have the hardest time to try to enforce it.

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judeye

May-16-13 7:57 AM

PR24601

"Alternative energy is a nice concept, but it's expensive and unreliable."

Just how expensive and unreliable do you think it will be when our seas rise destroying our coasts, droughts hit destroying our farmlands, and severe extreme storms hit causing major destruction?

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stangv8

May-16-13 7:26 AM

Marcia, you disagree with him naming corporations as citizens but not reclassifying an unconstitutional law as a tax to get around the Constitution. Aren't you being hypocritical?

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American

May-16-13 12:21 AM

Sorry to correct you local but she carried 16" guns along with smaller ones.

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localresident

May-16-13 12:17 AM

Dc, your level of complete derp is sinking to new lows, (even for you!). "term limits" obviously refers to the NUMBER of terms a representative can serve, not the length of their term, you tool. I can only hope the smugness gets smacked off your face with the subtlety of a 15-inch gun of the U.S. S. Iowa. One can only hope you snap out of your retardation and become rational, but that's totally daydreaming.

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American

May-16-13 12:12 AM

So you are on of those that was FOX news and believe it. I will give you they are more truthful then MSNBC which doesn't say much for either one. And How can you agree with the atrocity they taxed you for and called it "healthcare. That has to be a joke. You can't really be a FOX hound and still believe Obamataxedtothehiltcare is the right way to go.

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localresident

May-16-13 12:08 AM

Lol Stang, Marcia doesn't get the idea of the ACA "not adding taxes" but that so far 47 new taxes, fees, etc. are Already adding over $6 Trillion to the cost. It's called "denial".

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Marcia

May-15-13 11:14 PM

Why would I protest something I agree with? You protest it. I'm one of those crazy liberals who think we as a country should take care of healthcare for everyone, like every other modern country in the world.

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Marcia

May-15-13 10:47 PM

American, the poll you sited is on-line, not a scientific poll. Fox News reports: "A new Fox News poll finds the most popular measure continues to be universal background checks: A large 85-percent majority of voters favors requiring checks on all gun buyers, including at gun shows and private sales. That includes most Democrats (90 percent), Republicans (83 percent) and independents (82 percent), as well as most of those living in a gun-owner household (81 percent)." But they are just liberals, right?

Read more: ht tp://w w w .foxnews-dot- com/politics/2013/03/22/fox-news-poll-majorities-support-new-gun-measures/#ixzz2TQ6AAzjA

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stangv8

May-15-13 10:46 PM

Marcia, while you're in Jamestown letting Justice Roberts know how you feel about naming corporations citizens, make sure to lay into him about reclassifying a penalty legislated into a law (Obamacare) as a tax. Make sure to let him know his job is to rule on laws, not reclassify them.

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American

May-15-13 4:15 PM

Yes and while you are protesting "the ruling that named corporation's citizens" you should also be protesting the tax that is called healthcare. Most don't want it except some on the left.

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American

May-15-13 4:12 PM

"What should Congress do about gun control? Leave federal gun laws as they are (94%, 42,721 Votes) Expand background checks, ban assault weapons and limit the capacity of magazines (4%, 1,653 Votes) Only expand background checks (2%, 1,238 Votes) Total Voters: 45,612" Can you show me the proof of that. This poll says different Marcia. And it is using a lot more people then the standard 1000 or so. ht tp://w ww.pbs.or g/wnet/need-to-know/poll-2/congressional-action-on-guns/16826/

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Grandaddy

May-15-13 4:10 PM

The present U.S. political system has been carefully crafted to ensure that no one who questions the natural goodness of the military/industrial/media corporate power structure will be allowed through the portals of power.

Those positions of real power, the mega corporations and the world bankers, are not vulnerable to the vote and the outcome makes little difference, since they fund both sides Corporate media’s investment effectively keeps the illusion of democracy alive by ensuring that no true competition is allowed.

The voting process is the ultimate charade, yet the illusion “that every vote counts” is very important because it allows the average citizens to become willing participants in the corporate two party sham. Year after year the brainwashed American masses flock to the polls and continue to cast ballots with no reasonable expectation for improvement. This is the classic example of insanity – “repeating the same behavior and expecting different results”.

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commentor

May-15-13 4:07 PM

PR24601....thank you for your response. I thought you had some solutions but I guess you are just more of the hot air blah blah blah.

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