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LABOR BOARD: Will Senate uphold ruling?

June 14, 2013

Hundreds of rulings handed down by the National Labor Relations Board since January 2012 are, in effect, null and void....

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Jun-14-13 7:17 AM

Just to set the record straight, "Obama has made about 32 such appointments, President Bill Clinton made 139, while Mr. Bush made 171,"

Presidents making appointments during senate recess is nothing new. In fact this court ruling, if it is upheld, could invalidate hundreds of appointments made over the past few decades.

On the issue at hand.."all senators at the hearing conceded, the five nominees are highly experienced labor lawyers and qualified to serve as members of the NLRB...Three are from the president’s party and two from the opposition, the traditional balance... At any other time, their confirmation would be a virtual certainty." Politico

Is it not time that our Congress stop playing politics and start to do the work of the people. This includes making the appointments so this board can be fully functional.


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Jun-14-13 7:59 AM

Judeye Judeye-Two federal courts have ruled the appointments invalid,not the Congress.Should Congress vote to confirm,they would be in fact endorsing the violation of our Constitution! Is that what you want? The President of the United States is to the best of my knowledge sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution is he not? By the way,the make up of the 3rd Circuit is 14 Judges. Take a look at who appointed them and while at it take a look at why they say the appointments were/are invalid. Neither President Clinton nor President Bush trampled on the Constitution Judeye. Now let the spins begin.

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Jun-14-13 8:22 AM

judeye is showing the liberal spirit of compromise , confirm them she says. Judeye , you never disappoint. Such a die hard liberal.Now the courts are wrong for disagreeing with her man, obama. We should expect nothing less than this from Obama . His NSA fishing scheme, which could easily be turned into a voter info base proves it. His disregard for religius freedoms too. Judeye, tell us more about those tolerant compromising liberals. Judeye, do you ever get tired of telling people what to do ?

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Jun-14-13 8:31 AM

yes, Judeye never mind that every President has used recess appointments to make sure posts are filled. Never mind that because it's OBAMA. It grows tired from the right wingers Obama, Obama, Obama, doesn't matter the topic if it's local/state/federal it's all about Obama and his errors/mistakes and lack of right wing beliefs. But then again, the majority of US citizens that voted for him (me included) knew this and want his agenda passed our DO Nothing/SAY NO Conservative House of Representatives. The United States of America after GWB did not miraculously become The United States of Conservatives. Now even all Republicans are seeing the flaw of the incursion of these right wingers damaging our nation and The Republican Party. What he did with these out of session appointments is nothing more than what other Presidents have done. Regarding the NSA fishing scheme GWB started that not Obama as usual, blame him, as usual because you have nothing else but lies and falsehoods.

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Jun-14-13 9:29 AM

Geeez, this is like a couple of kids in front of their parents. “He hit me!” “He hit me first!”

From the Congressional Research Service:

Intrasession/Intersession/Total Appointments

Reagan: 72/160/232 Bush 1: 37/41/78 Clinton: 53/86/139 Bush 2: 141/30/171 Obama: 26/6/32

TOTAL: 329/323/652

303 intrasession appointments by Obama’s predecessors, by extension, were also illegal. It’s almost a case of “Officer, why did you pull ME over? Everyone’s doing 75 MPH!”

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Jun-14-13 9:38 AM

BobBob,the appointments were made in violation of the Constitution as the Senate was NOT in session. The House of Representatives has no say in the confirmation matter,did you know that??? Two federal courts ruled and the ruling was/is that the appointments were in violation of the Constitution. Do you wish ANY President free rein to ignore and disregard our Constitution Bob??? I don't think you voted to put in place a dictator did you Bob?? In my reply to Judeye I said let the spins begin and your off to a roaring start! Now Bob I will not say you are spreading lies and falsehoods but you are oblivious to how the process works.

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Jun-14-13 9:47 AM

DK is a person after my own heart -- recess appointments have been used for decades by all presidents.

But wholly unsurprisingly, the truly clueless church lady gaggle OBSERVER board reaffirmed its proud, militant ignorance (as well as the usual cast of GOP/RW/TBP suspect parroting commentors) with this 28 pt type font j u s t i f i e d nonsense.

If there is truly a reason for the all time historical low approval ranking of Congress, it rests solely at the feet of the GOP.

But that's fine -- it won't last forever. The near-term and long term data clearly shows it: the GOP will implode into a marginal southern party of KKK dimensions.

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Jun-14-13 10:11 AM

I can't wait for all the rationalizing when Obumer gets us into a war with Syria.

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Jun-14-13 6:14 PM

To those on the right, it's not that anyone really supports those kinds of appointments, but if any of you had complained when Bush did it, you'd have credibility. You didn't, so you don't, end of story.

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Jun-14-13 8:56 PM

"I can't wait for all the rationalizing when Obumer gets us into a war with Syria." Excuse me, but isn't that issue being pushed by Senator McCain? You know, that guy that brought Sarah Palin into the limelight?

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Jun-14-13 8:58 PM

Perhaps Christopher you forgot what occurred in 2007 when President Bush wanted to(but did not)do the same thing! Look up the pro forma sessions brought to bear by Senator Reed!

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Jun-14-13 8:59 PM

Dcronk, I think you're underestimating the GOP, and the issues they base most of their support on. Their issues are hugely polarizing, uncompromising issues for their supporters, and it may be a weird collection of people, I don't see them voting for any Democrats anytime soon. Lose NYC, and New York would be a Red State.

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Jun-14-13 9:32 PM

How does anyone in these forums know who complained about what Bush did when he was in office? Many of us were not even aware of these (if they even were here) during Bushes years. Many of the things Bush did I heard a lot of people complain about. He wasn't the best president we ever had but he sure beat the worst two by a long shot.

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Jun-14-13 10:14 PM

Democrzts have gone to the extreme left and Republicans to the extreme right. Neither party represents middle America and that may be why many Americans have such a low opinion of their government.

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Jun-15-13 7:39 AM

commentor...oh my biggest fear right now...another war

remember it was John McCain who went there and is calling also for us to enter into yet another war that really we should stay out of

both parties seem to have folks ready to enter yet another war. I hope we the people refuse to allow them to do this..

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Jun-15-13 7:44 AM

American...thinking that Bush is a better president than....almost any other president...clearly shows that you really do not remember..or do not know...exactly what he did while in office.

Look it up..starting with our entry into the war in Iraq.

Ending with the almost complete collapse of our entire economic system.

See why many...not just posters in this paper....say he is one of the worse presidents in the history of our Country.

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Jun-15-13 8:59 AM

Judeye you clearly did not read or understand my comment. I would suggest you go back and read the last line again. Then ask someone to explain it to you. And maybe whoever agreed with you should do the same.

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Jun-15-13 9:04 AM

Judeye gets it wrong again. She has said repeatedly where are the jobs ? Obama is in his 2nd term and judeye is asking where are the jobs. Obama will be found to be terrible, worse than Bush. Hey judeye, even historians are saying Hoover was a great prez as even clinton and other presidents looked into his writings in how to deal with the soviets. Christopher, repubs polarizing ? Are you kidding? Have a short memory ? You always forget your beloved teachers union and their war on education and minds.Cronig never mentions it in his flowery language posts. No choice here christopher . why is that christopher ? This is not polarizing? Get a clue on reality Paul.

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Jun-15-13 9:12 AM

To judeye, christopher and cronig. You have no knowledge of history, none at all. read how Iraq was made by Churchill and the Brits. The war is a long standing feud dating to Islams founding, it really is if you read history.All you libs say is how great the govt is and how stupid the repubs are.Cronig, the KKK was a democratic invention. The dems were against civil rights as Geo Wallace proved.So all you learned libs, please tell me the great so called accomplishments of the democratic party.judeye, it is so much fun to read your posts, steadfast for Obama in the face of economic decline. There is no wonder anymore how FDR got reelected so many times. People like christopher, judeye and cronig did it.

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Jun-15-13 9:25 AM

hey learned libs, what about FDR as the worst prez. Did ya ever hear of the GREAT DEPRESSION ? the libs made it so . Thats why we have the amendment limiting the prez to 2 terms. The country could not afford another democrat. You missed that libs. Repubs weird? Wilson and FDR made war on business. JFk and LBJ got us into Vietnam bigtime. Dont forget truman and Korea and lost china . KKK invented by dems, jim crow too and their famous civil war.. Cities ruined by libs. Christopher says repubs are weird. I even think oil was started by a repub, the libs thought we were gonna run out of oil.Who is dumb now liberals ? This behaviour by libs is not weird ? Liberals help me out here.

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Jun-15-13 9:26 AM

Judeye-the Bush policies,the war in Iraq, the tax cuts played little part part in the economic collapse. What started the crisis was the insolvency of Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns.(neither of these two investment banks had insured deposits) The housing crash was largely to blame for the financial crash with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac creating the "bubble"! The Bush administration in fact proposed(in 2003) an agency to oversee the two but was opposed by house democrats! Barney Frank said"these two entities-Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac- are not facing any financial problems"! In 2005 the Senate banking committee proposed a bill that would have regulated Fannie & Freddie. All democrats voted against it,all Republicans voted for it. Had that bill become law we probably never would have had the collapse. Now you know the rest of the story.

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Jun-15-13 9:49 AM

Judeye: your 1st response nailed it! Thank you.

If indeed Bush made 171 (Clinton 132) "recess appointments", then I'd say a past precedent had been clearly established. What was the court's response to this? Nevertheless, the contradictory ruling IN NO WAY disqualifies Block & Griffin from being considered and/or confirmed.

For this newspaper to insist that Griffin's & Block's confirmation be blocked, regardless of their labor expertise, copies the same defiance, ignorance and immaturity displayed through partisan politics.

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Jun-15-13 9:51 AM

hey libs, did any court say Bush recess appts wrong ?that is the issue here, not who did how many. the libs ranted against Bushs appointments , but are silent on Obama. Polarity again libs.And especially for Judeye. see pg A10, todays observer. Jobs in petrol industry, safe even after plant explodes in Louisiana. judeye, note the pay, average salary 70 grand a judeye, jobs ! jobs , jobs !I know they are not teaching jobs, but who cares ? Learn on the job. yet you are against fracking and hydrocarbons in general. Petrochem is big business and money and they do pay taxes .You miss that always judeye. Learned libs, lets hear how weird repub states are and those terrible energy companies. lets hear it from cronig and christopher too.

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Jun-15-13 9:54 AM

joew, I like your response. That is a thumbnail sketch of what happened. The libs try and squirm their way out of it.

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Jun-15-13 2:28 PM

Hello Captain,come in please! The appointments WERE IN VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION,THE SENATE WAS NOT IN RECESS!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW????NOTHING TO DO WITH EXPERTISE OR QUALIFICATIONS,EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WITH OUR CONSTITUTION!Good lord man read,inquire,and don't just adhere to what the pundits tell you! Do your own research!!!!!!!!!

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