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Racism: our nation’s original sin

July 20, 2013

I have decided to come out of retirement for an occasional column. I figured if players like Michael Jordan could do it in basketball and Brett Favre in football, so could I....

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American

Jul-27-13 10:39 AM

The only way to get along with people like Marcia is to agree with everything they say. No one else is right and facts mean nothing to them. Unless it is their "facts". Or it comes from a source such as that bastion of clear thinking left wing liars like msnbc. If Rachael the Mad Dowager says it or Ed the talking mule says it then it has to be the truth.

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bulldog10

Jul-27-13 9:09 AM

Sometimes you have to go along to get along, these folks have no idea how to get along with anyone....

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bulldog10

Jul-27-13 9:05 AM

Marcia, take a walk on the wild side, drive by shootings and all. It would be a new adventure from your lilly white lifestyle. Its call the hood and it doesn't cost a dime to visit. Every big city has one. Can't believe you have not stayed overnight you seem to be so in favor of those sorry folk!

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stangv8

Jul-26-13 7:51 PM

Marcia with the advent of police forces, a man can no longer defend himself without being hauled into court? You have any idea of how long it take police to get to some areas? I can tell you that there are times in Chautauqua County when the nearest law enforcement is 20 minutes or more away on a good day/night. Can you imagine what it's can be in winter during a snowstorm? Yes, I'll dial 911 but in the other hand is a XD 45 Compact loaded with 230 grains of Winchester Talon.

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bulldog10

Jul-26-13 2:54 PM

Stop talking about how mistreated they are until you walk those ghetto streets and SEE HOW YOU ARE TREATED CRACKER!

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bulldog10

Jul-26-13 2:51 PM

Marcia when are you gonna take a walk in the ghetto (the hood) at 12 mid-night and prove to me they are not animals? I want you to spend the night walking the ghetto streets and see what you look like come morning!

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American

Jul-26-13 1:25 PM

Yes networks like msnbc do seem to ignore anything that isn't sensationalized.

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Marcia

Jul-26-13 1:20 PM

Not to mention white on white crime, 84% of all white murders, according to the DOJ. There is discussions about that, and organizations are working to reduce it, it just doesn't make the press. You know, lamestream media.

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American

Jul-26-13 1:02 PM

Where is the out cry about all those teens getting killed daily in obamas hometown? Or other cities around the nation. You know the black on black ones or the Hispanic on Hispanic ones. Or where blacks are killing whites? You know the rest of the gang ba nger killings in this nation. Just what I thought they don't matter do they.

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Marcia

Jul-26-13 10:57 AM

Phil Julian, I think that idea ended with the advent of police forces. Anyone can shoot someone and then say "I was afraid." How do you stop wanton killing when the only other witness is dead? As far as bar fights, it was only an example. But let's face it, guys often get into fights, but don't kill the other person. Remember, the term is neighborhood WATCH, not police.

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PhilJulian

Jul-26-13 8:20 AM

Has this country deteriorated so bad that a man can't defend himself without being hauled into court?

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American

Jul-25-13 8:54 PM

And if you are in a bar drinking while carrying a gun then you deserve any and all charges laid against you. But the strange thing is we are not talking about a bar fight are we? We are talking about two people who both had a black heritage. Just one of them like Obama had some white heritage also.

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American

Jul-25-13 8:50 PM

No Marcia,while I can't speak for everyone on here, I can honestly say I have never lost a bar fight. Now I don't know what kind of dives you hung out in but myself, I preferred someplace with a little more class then that.

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stangv8

Jul-25-13 5:39 PM

Gee Marcia, I guess Zimmerman should have figured during the beating that Martin would stop before he received any serious injuries. A broken nose, black eyes, and couple cuts on the back of the head are really nothing. Zimmerman should have knows it would stop eventually and just allowed it to continue.

Actually he did get some medical attention at the police station and a clinic the next day.

I guess according to Marcia before someone can use deadly force, they have to be on the brink of death. Please tell me ma'am, at what point do you determent you're life is at the point to where you can use deadly force?

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Marcia

Jul-25-13 4:19 PM

Zimmerman was hurt so badly that he never received medical attention. The only person's word we have for what happened is Zimmerman, and he would never lie to protect himself. If everyone acted like him, every bar fight would end in a killing. Have none of you ever lost a bar fight and walked away with a bruised ego? Did you get a gun and kill the person, because that is the way under stand your ground. Kill someone and then say you were scared. Do it in a deserted area, and there is no one to disagree with you.

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American

Jul-25-13 3:36 PM

Well stangv8 I guess we should just prostrate ourselves before the great liberals on here and admit that we know nothing, that Zimmerman was nothing but a cold blooded killer that should have taken the beating that he must have deserved for trying to protect his neighborhood. We know that just because Zimmerman was a Hispanic black that he needed to be convicted and given a lethal injection for his many crimes against humanity. Yes I have seen the light stangv8 and I think you and other conservatives need to do the same. We have been such an ugly group of people thinking Zimmerman had any right to protect himself. I now understand how wrong I was to think that. The great Wizard Obama has stated if he had a son he would have looked like Martin. We must listen and believe those from the left that just want to protect us from the evils of America. I'm sorry Marcia and judeye that I ever doubted you were correct. Please lay the mantle of forgiveness on me. Let Obama renew me to be better.

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stangv8

Jul-25-13 2:51 PM

That's right Marcia, his lifestyle caught up with him before he had a chance to reform and that's unfortunate. Maybe, just maybe, if his school would have dealt with him instead of sweeping it under the carpet, things might have been different. Maybe he could have stood before a judge at 17, like my close friend did for “borrowing a car”, and given a choice between jail or military service; he choose the military and made a successful career of it. Martin just may have been a kid but each year, thousands of lives are ended in American by kids. Just think, if Zimmerman hadn’t had been armed, it may have been Martin on trial for murder and we would have never heard about it.

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Marcia

Jul-25-13 2:13 PM

Thank you stangv8, you made my point. You are all pointing fingers at Martin, but he was just a kid. Didn't have time to turn himself around.

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stangv8

Jul-25-13 11:59 AM

Marcia, George Bush was a drunk. He was man enough to admit it in his book and tells how he embarrassed his wife, parents, and a close family friend which led to him quitting. Other than left wing BS, there’s nothing to prove he did coke. Obama admitted to drug use in his younger days…so what.

Zimmerman may have been a thug himself years ago. Bush was a drunk. Most everyone did things in their past they’re not proud of but they changed. It’s all part of growing up and maturing. In high school, many of us would have been classified as thugs back in the time when school fraternities ruled the streets of D&F. We grew up and matured. Unfortunately, many young people today never mature from their thug mentality or never get the chance like in the case of Martin and hundreds of others on the streets of inner cities.

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stangv8

Jul-25-13 11:44 AM

Marcia, actually Zimmerman can be classifed as Black too although he goes by Hispanic. His mother is Afro-Peruvian. That's like Afro-American but being for a the South American nation of Peru.

Just so you know: Citizens of Peru mostly descended from Africans who were enslaved and brought to the Western hemisphere with the arrival of the conquistadors towards the end of the slave trade.

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stangv8

Jul-25-13 11:39 AM

My mistake, it was Martin who was tired, not Zimmerman

Judeye, gangsta is a lifestyle. Read his posts on Facebook and his tweets. He's not this innocent little child you want to envision to suite your purpose. He came back to confront Zimmerman. It's all there in the evidence presented.

Still waiting for you to show us it was right wing haters who tried him.

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Marcia

Jul-25-13 11:25 AM

Google Yolanda Spivey. She was a black woman who submitted the EXACT SAME RESUME to a job finding website and got no responses when she put herself as black and many when she said she was white. I know things are better than 20, 40, 60 years ago, but they can get better still.

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Marcia

Jul-25-13 11:21 AM

American, but you keep calling Martin a thug and he was not convicted of anything either. Can't you see it's the same thing? George Bush was arrested for drunk driving, was a cocaine user, and he was much older than Martin, was he a thug? Do the same standards apply here?

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American

Jul-25-13 11:10 AM

I didn't excuse it but did say he was never convicted of any of the charges. Big difference. Nor did I imply he "deserved" to die. But I do believe in self defense and defense of my family and if that means taking the other persons life to do so then that's the way it will be. I can't think of any "sane" person wanting to take a life but I believe there are times when it is the right thing to do. And this seems to have been one of those times. If I am armed and someone attacks me or mine then yes by God they need to prepare to die. Deal with it or not the choice is yours. You keep believing what the racist kings Jackson and Sharpton are saying and I will continue to believe in self protection. When are any of you going to start crying over the real crimes in places like Chicago where blacks are killing blacks for fun and profit?

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Marcia

Jul-25-13 10:47 AM

American, you wrote "In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies." You excuse that, and then call Martin a thug and imply he deserved to die. Martin was not convicted of anything either. Why the difference. Oh right, Martin was black. Blacks are thugs.

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