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September 1, 2013

By GIB SNYDER OBSERVER City Editor It has been well over a year since NRG Dunkirk announced it was going to close its plant due to the low cost of natural gas making the coal-burning electric......

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bulldog10

Sep-02-13 11:15 AM

Judeye, NYS gave the county home 2 stars out of 5, not much better then an "F". Does that mean you want to sell the home?

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judeye

Sep-02-13 10:11 AM

"a recent study by the American Lung Association gave Chautauqua County an F for ozone pollution, also known as smog. Chautauqua County was the only Western New York county to receive a failing grade in the State of the Air 2012 report." Observer april 2012

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225522

Sep-02-13 9:55 AM

Rumblefish for Mayor.

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Localone

Sep-01-13 6:46 PM

The mercury arguement is pure BS!! The emmssion control equipment that NRG inslatted a few years ago captures all but the most miniscule particles of mercury. You're inhaling more mercury from the dust kicked up by your lawnmower than that coming from NRG. It would be refresing to see people do some homework before spewing canned responses from the enviro nazis.

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Steiner

Sep-01-13 5:14 PM

joew, look at cronigs response. he wants fracking but calls your observations meaningless. natural gas, posters, according to WSJ articles is looking like a renewable fuel. This is hard for the libs to believe as they need a crisis at all times to get the govt involved. green energy is useless. mercury from coal? Wow, if a sewage plant burns the sludge, mercury is released into the air, unless they capture it from our solid waste. we had better ban humans . Where is Lindsay ? So while a boom from fracking goes on in the arid west, we in the east just fritter our heritage and money away. thank a liberal for that folks . that is not how we became the empire state. the libs just hate prosperity.

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DKexpat

Sep-01-13 3:29 PM

Downstate money and downstate interests will (once again) win out...

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Christopher

Sep-01-13 3:26 PM

I agree with Phil 100% on this one! Notice in the article how many of the negative letters to the PSC were form letters and from the NYC area, an area with power needs they currently plan on getting from Canada! Follow the money. For some reason, downstate is enamored with power from any place but here, and I doubt it's due to what kind of fuel we're using. So, as Phil asked, where's the Governor?

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PhilJulian

Sep-01-13 2:59 PM

There is something I just don't understand. The governor is so intent on attracting new business that the state offers 10 years of zero taxes to certain new businesses. With NRG we have a company already here willing to invest $500 million in new facilities so why is the governor not speaking out in support? If the projections of low cost gas are accurate it's only a matter of time and the coal burning plants in Pennsylvania and Ohio will be converting to gas so regardless of who's cost projections are accurate, what do we have to gain by rejecting the NRG offer? I think it's time for Mr. Cuomo to explain his silence.

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Christopher

Sep-01-13 2:14 PM

The "Duh" moment was the statement that everyone is worried about their taxes. That's a surprise to you, John? Of course they are, the loss of this plant will be devastating to Dunkirk, and ripple to Fredonia as well. Anyone thinking this plant isn't worth fighting for doesn't have a clue to the damage from its closure. I wouldn't care if it stayed coal, it's still the cleanest coal plant for hundreds of miles, certainly cleaner than the plant in PA National Grid wants to get power from. Gas conversion is fine, maybe better, but keeping it open is the important thing.

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joew

Sep-01-13 12:14 PM

"dcroakernig" not "so called" as you describe it,actually there but you wouldn't understand that I guess. Incidentally Dcroakernig,today is the first day of GOOSE season,careful out there! Whatever you do,don't honk or assemble into a gaggle!

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joew

Sep-01-13 12:08 PM

"Class of 74" have you looked at the ingredients of what you eat every day? Just a question,no malice,just a question.

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Classof74

Sep-01-13 11:31 AM

Coal Burning Plant, vs Natural Gas Burning Plant. Mercury Contaminants in the lake, absorbed by the fish we eat, come from Coal Fired Energy Plants. States like Pennsylvania, that rely on the Coal Mining Industry, are politically motivated to "Influence" Politicians to think COAL. The same Ash, spewed into the air by these plants, that contains Mercury, is finding it's way into our lungs,and our children's lungs,... 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for our lifetimes. Every time those north winds blow, Dunkirk and Fredonia residents are getting another accumulative dose of toxic Mercury.

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bulldog10

Sep-01-13 11:20 AM

arf, arf, clap, clap, "DUH"

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bulldog10

Sep-01-13 11:19 AM

You know Paul's plan would be the same one they used in Vietnam. Just put a couple of those iodine tablets in a glass of water. I mean how much could it hurt, look at Paul.

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rumblefish

Sep-01-13 11:11 AM

Listen: it has been reported that's it impossible to announce a plan when your head is buried in the sand or up some where else..

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Dcronlg

Sep-01-13 11:09 AM

Natural gas is our last best choice for fossil fuels -- period. This country sits on a massive amount & we need to tap it. For our best interests, we need convert almost all of our coal power plants & long haul transportation to NG. The key here is to tap it responsibility to protect everyone's interest.

The problem is that the drilling and tapping have not been done responsibly, consistently everywhere. If you have fracking amok, like PA, you have a slew of long term, downstream problems, none of which are worth the quick bucks some are making. With having common sense national regulations in place (which means no one will be truly satisfied), robust fracking should be pursued.

Toadeeeeew -- have you have constantly proven, both seeing & comprehending what is at the end of your nose is a constant struggle with you. So, your so-called first hand observations & judgements are meaningless...

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listen

Sep-01-13 11:03 AM

I'm waiting for Mr. Christopher plan?

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listen

Sep-01-13 11:00 AM

I am jumping on the bandwagon with RUMBLEFISH. As soon as it was reported that the site might close the Mayor should have released a possible budget with the tax losses. A 5% or 10% or whatever. The Mayor also should have stated of cuts across the board as well as a plan to make up the loss of tax revenue from the closing.

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rumblefish

Sep-01-13 10:59 AM

so what your saying Hadenough it's business as usual follow the "raise the bridge, instead of lowering the water" government, but alas all is not lost, city hall will increase the number of festivals to compensate for the increases, one festival a week times 52 weeks what wind fall for the city.

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joew

Sep-01-13 10:49 AM

Here is a simple question from a simple man(have fun robot and dcroakernig),how many of you have actually in person traveled to sites where there is fracking? I have,spent a day plus looking,talking with folks,drinking the water.(both well and municipal)I could give a rats behind about Utube and all the other edited for "political correctness" crap, My boots were on the ground where it was happening and just last month. I have news for you,the people are still breathing,the water(tested by independent labs)is just fine and folks have money in their pockets,disposable income if you will! Disposable income means(this ones for you Robot)folks are spending and supporting local business! However don't take my word for it,go see it yourself,only a one day trip. While there,fill up on gasoline that is about $.35 cheaper per gallon!

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hadenough

Sep-01-13 10:39 AM

Hope springs eternal but in the case Of HRG not. The plant is going to require a ton of modernization. Who thinks that a 1 inch line is going to run the plant? A 4 foot line or bigger will have to be installed. Natural gas burning equipment will have to be installed. $500,000 is the low ball figure. Plan on te plant closing and taxes going up. It seems that neither the school or the city has a plan if the plant closes. No mention of reduced sports programs, only 58 teaching positions being lost. The city has not said what services will be cut back or eliminated. Your leaders do not want to face reality. Just raise the taxes and keep going. leadership at its finest.

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rumblefish

Sep-01-13 10:33 AM

while waiting for a decision, has anyone proposed a plan of action if the plant closes, we have not heard of one, would it not be smart to be thinking ahead instead of waiting and reacting, you know shutting the barn door before the horse escapes not after, then again that may be too much to expect

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bulldog10

Sep-01-13 9:52 AM

Sorry Paul, not everyone is at the head of the class as you. Speaking of class......, speaking of making fun of others.......

I wonder how your wife lives with you, you being so up on everything.

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Steiner

Sep-01-13 9:38 AM

mcjens,your post is a joke right ? take away power and the gals would be hauling water like we see in the 3rd world. Cancer a problem ? The cell is not the unit of life. Women generally have obstructed progress since they got the vote. Lindsay and judeye are great examples. Women lack hugely in science even now.I only saw 6 gals in 40 years in chemicals. Leave the world to the men. women just cant think analytically.

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Steiner

Sep-01-13 9:35 AM

christopher , the paying taxes thing. Is that a bad thing ? I mean you are a govt lover and the plant owner is going to get the tax money from the rate payers, no ? Just like a renter pays taxes indirectly via the rent. We should have the plant repowered as running large plants at or near capacity is problematic. California has proven that a few times.PBS says the same thing. Hardly right wing. Cronigs extension cord answer only works if there is a plant to plug the cord into. Somewhere, we will need a generator.one sees extension cords in power outages, across streets, but somewhere , someone has a generator humming away. how can this elude so many people ? Answer, the libs made them stupid, unable to think

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