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Local listening session

Interested constituents have their say on Syria

September 5, 2013

It was the last of a six-stop tour for Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Reed when he held a listening session with constituents Wednesday afternoon at Dunkirk’s City Hall....

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judeye

Sep-05-13 4:18 PM

Grandaddy...agree...with all..except that 'President does not have the legal right to use military against another Country without Congress approval.'

One article that explains the conflict is in the Atlantic,...'Yes, Congress Can Authorize War without Actually Declaring War.' Another good article is from Vanity Fair..'GOP agrees the President does not need approval...if he is a Republican.'

From the latter article case in point.."April 14, 1986, Reagan ordered American military forces to attack Benghazi, the current darling among Republicans agog over Obama conspiracy theories. Reagan’s strike on Benghazi plus a simultaneous bombing in Tripoli took 32 American aircraft, dropping more than 60 tons of ordnance. Libyan officials reported 37 people killed and an untold number injured." Congress had NOT authorized this.

He has the authority...but let us pray he does not use it. Rather, look for NON violent ways to address the war criminals and stop the war crimes.

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Grandaddy

Sep-05-13 3:11 PM

we petition the Obama administration to: NO TO WAR IN SYRIA

The American people do not want the United States to go to war in Syria. There are no American interests being threatened in Syria. Syria has not attacked the United States, nor American citizens, nor has Syria attacked United States armed forces personnel. There has been no Congressional declaration of war. There has been no United Nations Security Council resolution authorizing the use of force in Syria. To go to war in Syria at this time would be illegal and unconstitutional. To go to war in Syria at this time would be criminal under international law, the crime of aggression. The President of the United States is not authorized under law to declare war on his own. If the President will decide to go to war without a declaration of war from Congress, that would be an impeachable offense.

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commentor

Sep-05-13 9:54 AM

Judeye you met Steiner?? Did he have his Steinertron with him?? Nah it's probably too big to be portable.

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PhilJulian

Sep-05-13 9:27 AM

Early in the session I asked Mr. Reed whether his free trip to Israel paid by lobbyists had any bearing on his middle east positions. He responded that his "no" opposition to Syria bombing was proof that he was not influenced by the trip. However late in the session, I asked why we continue to pour billions of dollars in foreign aid into countries that do not support our objectives. Mr. Reed responded that foreign aid is being reduced but HE IS A GREAT SUPPORTER OF THE $3 BILLION IN AID THAT WE SEND TO ISRAEL. So, did the free trip influence his position on Israel? Use your own judgement! I met two very fine ladies at the meeting who are also contributors to this column. While we are at opposite ends philosophically I do not question their intentions or integrity. I also spoke with candidate for county executive Vince Horrigan. I found him to be very impressive and a worthy candidate. Let's hope that future leaders can send this county into a new era of growth and prosperi

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Clowns

Sep-05-13 8:50 AM

Tom Reed should be locked up for using campaign funds inappropriately.

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Steiner

Sep-05-13 7:51 AM

grandaddy is having a field day. Listing all the bad things we have done. hey grandaddy, you missed all the machinations by the libs in govt during the same period. immigration act of 65, oh it was the democrats that escalated the vietnam war. remember LBJ? remember the riots of the 60's , liberal to the core. Civilian deaths, who cares, thats how we won ww2. for every item you list, we can counter with the dumb things the libs did and are still doing. Oh, you forgot the food riots in 3rd world due to US ethanol program to save the planet.war profiteers ? thats a good one, right up there with lies , LIES.The mideast is the meeting ground between the East and the West. You have no conception of history at all.It is the fulcrum of 2 different world views. Thats why they are in turmoil.they are in shame. if we stay out of it, it will get worse, Iran will get nuclear weapons and you will blame the gun lobby.Its hard for libs to actually think .the partty of non thinkers, the libs.

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judeye

Sep-05-13 7:34 AM

I for one was glad to see our local Rep care enough to come to Dunkirk to hear the thoughts and concerns of some of the citizens from his district.

The comments and questions from those in attendance were all excellent. They ranged from feeling the USA had to do "something" this was a clear violation of international law, with some having concerns about caring for our veterans before sending any more into combat, to actions limited to only nonviolent methods, such as sanctions and embargoes. Everyone who wanted to make a comment or ask a question had the opportunity to do so. Yes, it would have been nice to have heard more of the questions and concerns expressed at yesterday's session. Many thoughtful people around here.

To me, one of the highlights was to be able to meet in person someone I have "talked" with often in this comment section. You know who you are, and my pleasure sir to meet you in person. Look forward to more discussions with you!

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WilliamR

Sep-05-13 7:16 AM

I would have liked to read more about questions and statements from the audience.

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Grandaddy

Sep-05-13 6:29 AM

From 1962 to 1973, the Department of Defense planned 134 tests under Project 112, a chemical and biological weapons "vulnerability-testing program." In 2002, the Pentagon admitted for the first time that some of tests used real chemical and biological weapons, not just harmless stimulants. Specifically under Project SHAD, 37 secret tests were conducted in California, Alaska, Florida, Hawaii, Maryland and Utah. Land tests in Alaska and Hawaii used artillery shells filled with sarin and VX, while Navy trials off the coasts of Florida, California and Hawaii tested the ability of ships and crew to perform under biological and chemical warfare, without the crew's knowledge. The code name for the sea tests was Project Shipboard Hazard and Defense -- "SHAD" for short. In October 2002, the Senate Armed Forces Subcommittee on Personnel held hearings, as the news broke that chemical agents had been tested on thousands of American military personnel.

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Grandaddy

Sep-05-13 6:28 AM

Between 1961 and 1967 the US Air Force sprayed 12 million US gallons of concentrated herbicides, mainly Agent Orange (containing dioxin as an impurity in the manufacturing process) over 6 million acres. In 1997, an article published by the Wall Street Journal reported that up to half a million children were born with dioxin related deformities, and that the birth defects in North Vietnam were fourfold those in the South. It is also of note that the use of Agent Orange was contrary to international rules of war at the time and most of the victims of the assault were small children. A 1967 study by the Agronomy Section of the Japanese Science Council concluded that 3.8 million acres (15,000 km²) of land had been destroyed, killing 1000 peasants and 13,000 livestock. And our Government is concerned about Syrians killing Syrians with British made and supplied chemicals? More lies of the same kind used in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya! Just say NO to the war profiteers in Washington.

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