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No easy answer in Syria dilemma

September 11, 2013

Should the United States get involved in Syria’s civil war? Are you as conflicted about this as I am? Congressman Tom Reed held multiple meetings with residents last week; I attended the one in......

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stangv8

Sep-15-13 10:59 AM

Phil, I didn’t say anything about American intervention so no need to try and say I did. We have no business in Syria. Mostly I was mentioning your anti-Semitism and how you brought Israel into the Syrian conflict. You say some brilliant things here but it seems whenever you get the chance, you blame Israel for every problem that crops up in the Middle East. Still waiting for you to explain Jefferson’s and Adams observation that Muslims hated the United States from its inception. There was no Israel to blame back then.

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judeye

Sep-15-13 8:02 AM

Amazing...

people disagree...with PEACE

would have you rather we had gone to war? or used military action?

oh.I get it...the fact that our President negotiated a PEACEFUL settlement. *****that guy..he always out foxing us!

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ProudToBeUnAmerican

Sep-14-13 8:45 PM

"We begin bombing in 5 minutes."

~Ronald Ray-gun

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joew

Sep-14-13 1:24 PM

Sorry Bob no lies,even Judeye agrees with that. Find a different avenue,maybe occupy the pier or something?

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Steiner

Sep-14-13 10:51 AM

bob, you are confused. it was the housing bubble, started by libs to make housing affordable via fannie and freddie that started the economic collapse. You libs seem to think you are innocent at every turn.You are not .At the root of almost every great economic crisis has been a democrat from the civil war,income tax, the great depression, the carter 70's and the economic malaise we find ourselves in now. We find a democrat . the libs like you view all of this as a democratic social tinkering success. The reality is the opposite. But you never catch on, do you libs.

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Steiner

Sep-14-13 10:45 AM

bob and phil , clueless as usual. Bob even says lies ! Lies ! phil missed the fact that mohammed slaughtered israelis in 670ad. The US helped the muslims in kosovo and afghanistan during the 80s. they thanked us by attacking us.What should have we have done after 9/11 libs ? Nothing ? we got rid of he CIA of the 50's and 60's to appease the libs so the only thing was large scale military action. Libs, you got to get away from saying lies, right wing, foxnews, etc. You hate citizens united too. people can think libs. It is obvious you libs dont.i say again strategy eludes you. it is you who are filled with hatred at any opinion that disagress with you . Libs just cannot think historically or with a strategic purpose. Putin can and made a fool out of obama.

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bob1957

Sep-14-13 9:42 AM

Notice how without any hesitation, not one Republican mentions that President Bush put us in this war weary state. How President Bush unfocused the war against Al-Quida to Iraq. How President Bush put us in an on budget war that has never been done and left us with an economy so weakened we are STILL recovering. How President Bush and HIS minions lied to the American People and began a war costing our most precious commodity our service men and women their lives and health. And it's the libs, lies, lies, lies what FOX News and the ilk do: LIE. Syria has no good answer, we have to do something, Why? Exactly because we are The United States of America we must maintain vigilance over WMD, protect God's Land: Israel and maintain the best control we can when WMD is used. There is another matter, Putin needs to be put in his place he is nothing more than an old KGB ideologue. Further, Russia does have a port in Syria but Putin himself has personal financial stake in Syria.

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PhilJulian

Sep-14-13 9:12 AM

STANGV8 - let's get down to the real reason for the conflict. Palestine is 75% Muslim and Israel is 75% Jewish. They have been at each others throats since day one. Do you really believe that American intervention is going to solve religious differences? How many more young Americans do you want to see butchered in a battle that can't be won? How many more billions of American dollars do you want to spend on a religious war? The history of the region does reveal the source of the problem including the United Nations resolution in 1947 and the war of 1967 but it is America's uncompromising support of Israel that is at the root of today's issues including terrorism on our own soil. Peace will come when the Muslims and the Jews put down their weapons and establish two separate states with well defined boundries. Amen!!!!!

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Steiner

Sep-14-13 8:54 AM

you libs have made fools out of yourselves, absolute fools. From the Balfour declaration to the birth of israel, it was the intention of european leaders to get a bulwark of the west as a trigger for jihad . They would be the first responders. fact libs. read history. Noone in the States appreciates how close the europeans were to going under via islam. But course you libs would say diversity.Ancient history is relevant as the jihadists want the glory days of the ottoman empire or haroun al raschid back. From books and Tv folks, not right wing by any means.judeye out did herself in praise for her man. her man was made a fool and judeye is liking it.Stand by your man, like hillary and huma !you lib gals are incredible, incredibly naive. Thats why guys did all the science and philosophy, fact marcia, look it up.Thats why you cannot understand what this is about. hegel would know in a heartbeat what the hades is going on. I love this ! philosophy sinks you libs unawares ! clueless.

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Steiner

Sep-14-13 8:44 AM

judeye is a fool ! yes ! A peaceful solution by our prez ? huh ? It was Putin who brokered this to humiliate the prez . Putin has been playing obama for a fool and winning. foreign news sources from PBS and MSM say the same thing and judeye says the opposite . judeye, you do not understand strategy, war, economics , just about anything .Marcia help us. Hussein did gas a lot of people.Some generals on tv said he moved the weapons to syria in the rush to war. In any event, iraq was and is a creation of the west, fact marcia, judeye and the libs. see churchills folly by catherwood.That means folks, you unlearned ones who dont know any world strategy at all that we as the west can walk in at anytime and simply rearrange the place like the muslims tried in the the centuries before the crusade. See battle of poitiers. Marcia another fact for you. this is the strategey being played out.

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Steiner

Sep-14-13 8:36 AM

hey phil and marcia, you are wrong . 1786 is not ancient history as bin laden wanted the ottoman empire reborn. blame israel ? thats the west in a region where the west is hated. On PBS i saw that in syria the sharia types are having public beheadings in the remoter regions.All you unlearned libs miss that this conflict goes back to the birth of mohammed. too far back for you ?How is it you miss what scholars and tv series are saying ? Christianity is ancient too , but still relevant.zoroasterism too is relevant today and that is the most ancient of all religions, some say as back as far as 5000 BC. libs, why dont you understand the power of ideas ? marcia, give us some facts, not mere opinions about their facts holding no water. what facts exactly Marcia ?

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judeye

Sep-14-13 8:34 AM

Appears we just might have a peaceful resolution !!!!

BRILLIANT Mr. President..simply brilliant

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American

Sep-13-13 11:19 PM

"If Obama wants to punish Syria, he should go be their President.

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American

Sep-13-13 8:37 PM

"This country has shed many tears since September 11th, 2001. We shed many more tears on September 11th, 2012 as four Americans died in Benghazi.

We don't know the truth of who the enemy is or was.

Now we are being told that it is in our interest to support Al Qaeda in Syria. Did 10,000 people die at the hands of Al Qaeda so that we could support them? Who could blame our service men and women for objecting to the idea of supporting the terrorists who killed their brothers and sisters?" *******freedomoutpost****/2013/09/2-million-bikers-invade-d-c-remind-us-911-still-means-something-real-americans/ Why does Obama or anyone want to help our enemies? Look deep within yourself before you agree with him on this.

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stangv8

Sep-13-13 8:13 PM

Phil, 1786 goes to show that they have hated this country since then. For some reason, you can’t see it as you’re so stuck on blaming Israel for all the evils in the Middle East.

Prior to Palestinian land being Israeli land, it belonged to the British who wrested it from the Ottoman Turks in the aftermath of WWI. Today's Palestinians always speak of "their land" when it never was a sovereign nation. It was always owned by somebody else, and the people who call themselves Palestinians were the subjects of those foreign occupiers. And here's the big rub: The Palestinians for over a thousand years never seemed to care. It's only when that land was allocated to the Jews that they got their kababs in a twist. And to be certain, if the Palestinians had tried with the Turks the same militant terror tactics they now use in an attempt to establish their own autonomy, the Turks would have slaughtered them with nary a wink's loss of sleep over it

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American

Sep-13-13 4:11 PM

So saying people have no class isn't a personal attack at all is it. Just shows how much class you have. none

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PhilJulian

Sep-13-13 10:44 AM

STANGV8 - 1786 is ancient history. You had better do a review of current history. In 1947 the United Nations confiscated 55% of Palestine to create an Israeli state. PALESTINE LOST 55% OF LAND THAT WAS OCCUPIED BY PALESTINIANS! In 1967 Israel confiscated The West Bank and Gaza strip - again from Palestine. Now, imagine that the United States decided to claim the Province of Ontario. Ontario does not have a massive army so they decide to shoot rockets into The Unites States in retailation. You have tio consider the source of the problem. Does The united States have a right to claim Ontario as it's own territory? Come on StangV8 - i think you are smarter than that! This has nothing to do with anti-semitism - it has to do with common sense. There is only one country in the Middle East that invaded and continues to occupy land belonging to it's neighbors - Israel.

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Marcia

Sep-13-13 10:02 AM

Again, the conservatives always need to make personal insults because their facts hold no water. You have never heard Judeye, Christopher or me ever us these personal attacks. No class.

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joew

Sep-13-13 9:13 AM

Misinformation as you said would be correct Judeye,not lies. Thank you for agreeing,I have a bit more respect for you now. Could you give Marcia a jingle and convey that to her?

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Steiner

Sep-13-13 9:00 AM

in a nutshell judeye, europeans know they almost went islamic around 700. this left them with great fear. Modern israel created as a bulwark, long before oil was so vital. Hades, you believe in green energy, how could you believe this ? Wilson went home after ww1 and left us a mess with the help of the brits. Kosovo for example. I am suprised that not one prof says anything in the observer about this. . Some of this has been on PBS.the rest is in books. Books i found talking to book people. the book people marvelled at the story, so easily checkable yet virtually ignored by the liberal media.they spend most of their time hating america when we were a late arriver on the scene. the libs just keep on saying, lies, hatred, citizens united . The only reason I can see is you want to control our thoughts. Why else would you libs fight vouchers in schools if education was truly what was wanted ? No its control.

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Steiner

Sep-13-13 8:50 AM

judeye, always saying hatred, right wing, foxnews, limbaugh etc is not the mark of a solid mind.In the computer age and cheap books from online, info can be checked easily.I have done it. thats how i did my chemical stuff plus talking to the great chemists of the world. your constant emphasis on govt when america was built when we had limited govt is a telling sign.Always saying lies is the best one. You never mention any history on the mideast except LIES !I have mentioned a few great books from librarians and the net. read them, you will see that the world they wrote on is hardly ever mentioned in the liberal media, except now and then on PBS.It seems to me that our leaders too are ignorant of history. The ones that knew it the most are dead. these would be european ww2 leaders. They knew like the stang reference that islam would be a problem and not just for oil. You have no knowledge of anything, yes anything.

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Steiner

Sep-13-13 8:40 AM

judeye, i offer PBS as factual. Even the 700 club has good news in it. Watch Foxnews, listen to limbaugh and then go check out what they say. Go to a library and ask a librarian. Read wikipedia and check their references. all of this will paint quite a different story than the one you always post.For some reason, congress and the world believed all of Bush's lies about iraq. Why did the NY times print the oped from Putin ? Cuz he slams america, like the libs routinely do . obama has done it and other democrats with their you did not build that. Judeye, i have read over 2000 books and 10000 patents. i can only say that after reading your posts there are only 2 possibilities. You are from another planet and learning disabled or all the authors and historical references they quote are in error.you are so far left it must be a mental issue.

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Steiner

Sep-13-13 8:31 AM

hey stang, you are quoting facts about islam. Libs either hate facts or twist them. judeye says america not a christian nation. another fact for judeye, from the treaty of tripoli. American interests attacked by muslims long before we were a world power.what else could we say ? there was no official religion, unlike islam. The crusades were launched AFTER the muslims conquered the holy land and even spain. The libs, just miss this over and over. According to PBS , mohammed attacked the hebrews in the late 600's because they were talking to his enemies. it is more than religion, this is a clash of ideas. One can be a muslim in america, but try that in syria or any other islamic country and you will face death. Ignored by the libs like judeye .the main stream media is liberal, they say so themselves and judeye does not know it. read any history book and you will get the story. Even watching PBS will inform you.

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judeye

Sep-13-13 7:42 AM

If you think the NY Times is nothing but a left liberal news...would you post what news organizations you think are OBJECTIVE. That is present the FACTS and not just their opinions.

CBC? BCC? Reuters?

Or do you think that every news outlet is liberal...except for those who present things that agree with you?

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judeye

Sep-13-13 7:35 AM

People disagreed when I posted direct quotes relating to the misinformation that helped push us into Iraq.

Are you disagreeing with the misuse..lying...or do you disagree with the FACTS?

Many also disagreed when I mentioned trying to go to sources other than those that just agree with you. Look for the other side so to speak on issues.

Who needs Facts when we have so many hot, fear and hate based opinions?

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