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Taking charge with electricity

September 22, 2013

By MARIE TOMLINSON Yes! Let’s repower Dunkirk! Let’s empower ourselves! We can do this by developing independent energy generators. Let’s think in terms of the house-sized uni....

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Steiner

Sep-27-13 8:48 AM

judeye is like the dentists wife in Boston whose hubby was experimenting with anasthesia. This wife wanted her hubby to stop the work for some strange reason, getting back to nature, probably.any operation was torture and the activist gals wanted it that way, fact gals. This wife imitated lady davy across the pond in the UK who hindered the famous scientist, michael faraday in his anasthetic work. The girl in amercia simply mimicked the gal in the UK like judeye and the liberal gals do now. They do it in europe they write ! These gals almost set back painkiller work decades. feminine intuition at work, like judeye and the LWV.This alone should be enough to take the vote away from all activist gals and their organizations. One just cant risk feminine intuition messing up life as they are want to do as mentioned in my several previous posts .

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Steiner

Sep-26-13 11:52 AM

i quoted more facts for the learning challenged judeye. She believes the wind and sun are 24/7. She believes that the btu content in a gallon of fuel oil, about 138,000 btu a gallon can be equaled easily from green energy. green energy is heavily subsidized from other working energy like oil. green energy is expensive, unreliable and produces far less jobs than claimed. all success to judeye.judeye , you have to refute this and you cant. Only science ignorant people like you and the other liberal posters believe in green energy or the junk science of global warming.any good analyticcal chemist knows co2 does not absorb heat. unscientific people like liberals have delusions masquerading as real things. just like that shooter in dc,it was ELF talking to him, only it is co2 molecules talking to liberals.

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Steiner

Sep-26-13 11:40 AM

Judeye is wrong again and again as usual. the installed wind capacity in Germany is far greater than the actual realization . Why ? Due to the fickle nature of the wind. An aluminum company had a blackout due to the wind stopped blowing and the fossil fuel plant was not started fast enough. a woman is behind this, imagine that ,germanys leader, merkur desire to go green. Serious damage to the plant resulted. The aluminum company is looking to relocate outside germany.The backup , fossil fuel must be maintained on a moments notice . The unlearned people, mostly women who write here will destroy society with their mental illness over global warming over the non existant threat from CO2 . Gals and science never did mix well. proof is in the world scene. Judeye must be learning challenged to beleive that solar and wind can replace fossil fuel or nuclear. Or she has no idea how society or industry functions inspite of all her claims for science and facts.

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joew

Sep-25-13 8:25 AM

225522 Those numbers posted by Judeye show the percentage of newly installed energy sources and DO NOT mean that for example,wind power provides 39% of Europe's energy needs. It accounts for less than 10%!In fact we are ahead of them since 43% of newly installed energy sources were wind. P.S. Be careful of going to the ENN site,my Norton software identified it as a MALICIOUS SITE!

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Steiner

Sep-25-13 7:53 AM

judeye, europe is importing american wood chips to be carbon neutral.there aint enough wood in the world to do what the green heads want. Mideast countries are importing coal from america to save oil to sell. Oil is much easier to use /modufy than coal. judeye misses this too.judeye, you miss again and again my statements about energizing gas to make 25% more MPG at a penny a gallon. this is where science is headed, not backwards with solar and wind as you propose. Gals like you do enormous damage to society.judeye wants to run the clock backwards, thinking we can discard fire. What a huge mistake she is making and she does not even know it.

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Steiner

Sep-25-13 7:46 AM

judeye is like the libs in the 20's and 30's who were marveling at germany's progressive movement. We hads to be like germany with breeding programs, sterilizations, govt intervention etc. Then it was realized that germany had carried it to great extremes and the libs fell silent. Judeye has not said one whit about US. She only parrots. judeye has not refuted anything i said about power. Nuclear and fossil fuel are 24/7, everything she proposes is not. Now magnify judeyes thoughts by the gals at the EPA and you will see what a problem we have. Girls like judeye just dont understand any science at all.judeye admit it, you are science illiterste. Co2 does not trap heat, it never did. You should stop posting as you are giving fodder to guys like me who know that gals and science dont mix.

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Steiner

Sep-25-13 7:38 AM

learned judeye responded with the classic liberal argument, they do it in europe !judeye see, judeye do. Hey judeye, europe's industry is moving out of europe because green energy is expensve and not reliable. What part of that dont ya get gal. over and over i have said it. It has been on tv and judeye says green energy ! Why would any one be against it she says. She knows nothing, nothing at all as usual. Fracked gas has put energy so cheap, that without massive subsidies, wind and solar are junk. yes junk. Thats why obama is set to rstrict fracking and drive the cost up. In a liberals eyes, yoy can have any energy you want as long as it is expensive.

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225522

Sep-24-13 8:36 PM

39 % does not heat or allthe light in all the homes..yet.

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Localone

Sep-24-13 10:10 AM

Judeye, The options NRG has given are in response to a request of SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS by the public service commission based on the needs determined from historical data and studies to determine future electricity usage. You of all people cant argue with the results of a study, you tree huggers hang your hat on study results for every ridiculous thing you throw out there. The problem with the tree huggers and studies is that you only absorb the information that suits your agenda, and then turn around and criticize the way everyone else thinks. Have you ever looked in the mirror and wondered who the real crackpot is?

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judeye

Sep-24-13 9:27 AM

225522 Europe has been using a few different systems for years but no individual homes or business on a large scale. Maybe in 50 or 100 years.

"Wind and solar technology made up over half of Europe’s new electricity generating capacity in 2009, as the number of new coal and nuclear facilities fell..More wind capacity was installed in Europe during 2009 than any other electricity-generating technology, according to statistics released today by the European Wind Energy Association (EWEA).

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Wind accounted for 39 per cent of increased European energy capacity, ahead of gas (26 per cent) and solar (16 per cent)"

ENN Environment News Network

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judeye

Sep-24-13 9:19 AM

JoeW....I am saying that we should not rule anything out.

Why is there such a resistance to just learning more about alternative energy? Why is it wrong to want more information so we can weigh all of the options rather than jumping on the one that NRG has given? I just would like to see all of the options..with pros and cons for each ..outlined for us the taxpayers who you all realize will end up paying for whatever course they follow, decide.

It is called an INFORMED decision. I have NO idea why anyone would be opposed to such an idea.

Unless they were closed minded set in the past and refuse to look at options. All of which are blocks to moving forward.

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Steiner

Sep-24-13 8:44 AM

Judeye, you have not said anything ! We are all waiting the learned gals response ! please refute what I said.give us liberal science !

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Steiner

Sep-24-13 8:30 AM

judeye,almost every motor in industry is alternating current. Do ya know what that is ? Science judeye. Teslas dream of revolutionizing the world came true at niagara falls over a hundred years ago. fact judeye, fact after fact for judeye, she cannot grasp them. the dunkirk plant is 580 milliom watts. A windmill is 3 million watts . So equivalent windmill, not 24/7 is 200 windmills in round numbers. 5 to ten acres per megawatt for solar. figure it out. Thousands of acres to equal one plant. How can you be so ignorant judeye, nay so stupid ? judeye, tell me how this is wrong, how i am nott doing science. judeye and the gals at the LWV. What a bunch of error prone people not seen since prohibition.Judeye, we all will await your response and it beter not be i want facts and science. this is facts and science.

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Steiner

Sep-24-13 8:24 AM

hey judey, i love science and have done it for 40 years. I made some of the stuff you buy in the store. I have worked in chemical plants and hobnobbed with the biggest companies in the world. I thought local and acted global My products sell round the globe. Judeye, you are a simpleton with at best a 4th grade education.tell me how this is not science. I would have blown myself up as i have worked with explosive materials. judeye says i know no science. Judey , i have mentioned how you could improve gas mileage via steinertrons. You ignored that . This is first proof other than homeopathic preps that the world can be engineered. thats what einstein and bohr argued about incessantly. that is science judeye, unless you think it not. To make bombs in the early stages used lots of juice. thats why the used TVA power. judeye says i want facts and science .judeye, refute all this and you will be smarter than all the great nobel prize winners before you. any wonder why gals lag in science?

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Steiner

Sep-24-13 8:16 AM

judeye has the biggest closed mind in the posts. She ignores or just plain does not understand what makes our worlds work. i quoted tesla, the father of the industrial revolution. She wants facts. these are facts. i quoted Tv programs saying 25 watts, yes only 25 watts from large solar arrays on cloudy days. thats one large compact flourescent bulb. what will it take to make you and the LWV understand any science, anything about chemistry, anything at all ? I have been in industry. I quoted facts and what i saw. judeye says give me facts. Judeye these are facts. Modern life cannot be sustained without gigawatts of 24/7 electricity. No renewable can do it.What poart of this dont ya understand judeye, these are the facts. Interrupting power in a chemical plant will lead to explosions. fact judeye.now dear judeye, how are these not facts ?textbooks and factories are not facts per judeye !

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Steiner

Sep-24-13 8:09 AM

Judeye, are you out and out that ignorant ?What the hades is wrong with you ? i have listed numerous facts, all ignored by you. You say facts, i want facts. i post them you ignore them. What part of my posts dont ya understand ? they were taken right out of science textbooks.Writen by the guys who did the work. electrostatics was dismissed a long time ago .it has little power. Thats why you gals only make 77 cents on a dollar vs men. you must have electric motors. You must be ignorant beyond imagination about how they work and what makes them work. How did ya get to be so dumb ? I have been next to 3 million watt diesel backup generator that power up a sewer plant. The ground shudders on the first few putts. here arrives the gals saying use statics.. golly you girls are dumb.

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225522

Sep-23-13 10:48 PM

If that was possible I think it would have been done by now. It seems the Thruway way looking at wind power to light this end of the system. They gave up the idea. If a money gulper like the thruway can't make a go it can't be done now. Europe has been using a few different systems for years but no individual homes or business on a large scale. Maybe in 50 or 100 years.

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joew

Sep-23-13 6:11 PM

Judeye I'll repeat this and eagerly await your response. You mean that if we had the solar panels,windmills(which are killing our raptor population at an alarming rate)that the Saturn,Nissan,and Toyota plants would have located here instead of where they did Judeye.

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Localone

Sep-23-13 12:32 PM

Judeye, why don't you jump right in, lead by example and spend your money to show us how its done? There are leaders, followers and dreamers. Which one are you?

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judeye

Sep-23-13 11:38 AM

Exactly the problem...

see how many disagreed with me...when all I said is to have an open mind and get information on a variety of possible alternatives BEFORE making up our minds.

Forgot that too many really do not care much for science...and especially if it involves FACTS. Better to rely on whatever opinionated talking head media that you read, watch or listen to.

Do not ask questions...Do not be open for another view....

and you still wonder why people leave this area?

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PhilJulian

Sep-23-13 9:12 AM

Oh yes, and we can operate the steel plant on a giant windmill! It's nice to dream but the fact is that we have a major company willing to invest $500 million in a plant that will secure our city's future and local jobs for years to come. Technology is great but so is common sense.

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Steiner

Sep-23-13 8:05 AM

more facts for judeye,we need a guy like tesla back in the world. You see judeye, he was independently wealthy, one of those rich folk you seem to hate. He became rich from inventions . Of course , the libs say he did not build that. Along came judyes favorite guy, woodrow wilson and gave us the income tax and slowly but surely drained the money away.the public school did the rest with christophers unions and made us all stupid. we can thank judeye and the libs for the present mess. Unlearned and ignorant, like ida tarbell they continue to make war on progress. Marie is a modern day ida tarbell, ignorant of what is needed and determined to stop science and life. Fact gals, facts.judeye, are these enough facts for you ? do you need more ?

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Steiner

Sep-23-13 7:59 AM

like i said before , the only thing that can make reliable large power is a fuel cell powered by natural gas. Any other green attempt will be a failure. Facts for judeye ! what marie described is known as statics, long ago abandoned as it will not power up anything. A large sewer plant is 3 million watts. Facts for judeye. everything judeye and the gals propose was abandoned centuries ago, as it did not and cannot work.I have seen motors as big as an automobile. these are not going to run on renewables as the wind will not blow all the time. Take these motors out and we are in the stone age. Facts for judeye.judeye, is this enough facts for you ? not even right wing facts, from PBS ,history and personal experience. Judeye are these enough facts for you ? Do you understand them ? I doubt it .

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Steiner

Sep-23-13 7:53 AM

more facts for the learning challenged judeye . We had an off the grid system. FDR , in a rare monent of thinking made the REA. This was to electrify the rural areas so as to get rid of renewable energy, windmills. the most they could do was light a few bulbs and maybe some small motors . Facts judeye. Now the unlearned gals want to turn the clock back to the 30's. hey gals, ever turn a crank to pump water ? It is very hard to do. If you have a deep well, 150 feet, it would be impossible. Yo need a tesla motor down there to do the work. facts for judeye.Heat the house off the grid? no way, even with wood as the forests will disappear. You need a grid of oil, gas or propane to do this.On PBS in the SW of US was home after home with solar panels on them. On cloudy days, they got 25 watts, yes 25 watts/house. The house was on the grid to remain cool. Air conditioning, invented by an Angola native makes the south and west livable. Facts for judeye. understand judeye ? gals ?

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Steiner

Sep-23-13 7:45 AM

more for judeye and the gals. the gals that bought us prohibition and now a war on carbon via the EPA. tesla wrote an article called increasing human energy. Judeye never heard of it . Probably because they never read it in europe so judeye can imitate.Tesla started small and then went big, into millions of horsepower. His magnifying transmitter secret, to the grave with tesla, if cracked again would provide all our energy needs. fact judeye Fact. judeye dear, you keep looking for other people to think for you. The guys like tesla and myself will do all the science. this way you can imitate and call it original.you gals cannot think big, only shrinking the load, like they did on titanic. hey judeye, i have said i increased gas mileage 25% for a penny a gallon. you ignored that too. another fact. Anyone with machine knowledge and ancient writings could do it. I guess you gals are not that smart after all are you ?

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