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Brocton discusses merger savings

September 26, 2013

BROCTON — Thirteen days remain until the statutory merger vote for Brocton Central School and Westfield Academy and Central School on Oct....

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Chuck392

Sep-26-13 6:45 AM

It appears that by the state throwing in more aid, it puts up a smoke screen, effectively hiding what the real financial impact will be. Don't get me wrong - I think a merger is going to be their only way to survive at the moment, but will there be any substantial savings to local taxpayers? I doubt it. When the aid dries up, they'll soon be in the same boat - just as Chautauqua Lake is.

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shofuh

Sep-26-13 7:24 AM

The Board of Education thinks that we are all stupid. These funds they are getting from the state are still our tax dollars.

THIS PLAN WILL COST TAXPAYERS MORE NOT LESS!

I am in support of consolidation, but this plan stinks. Merge schools and cut 25% of expenses or it is a BAD DEAL!

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 7:31 AM

The fact is, this is a great deal for the taxpayers of Brocton.

THE SAME FACT IS THIS IS A BAD, BAD, BAD MERGER FOR THE WESTFIELD TAXPAYER.

Lets talk about the 35 or so million dollars the Brocton school is in DEBT. IN THE MERGER WESTFIELD WILL INHERIT THAT DEBT. Is it fair that Brocton built up 35 million in Debt and now Westfield has to pay it off for them if the merger passes?

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 7:33 AM

Is it fair that Brocton gets a 30% tax break if the merger passes AND WESTFIELD ONLY GETS A 1% TAX BREAK?????

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 7:36 AM

Is it fair that Brocton had an illegal "safe zone" for the past 10 years or so and it has officially been notified by NY State that they (Brocton) has to pay back at least $90,000.00 and if the merger passes WESTFIELD WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY MOST OF THAT $90,000.00 BACK FOR BROCTON????

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 7:42 AM

Is if fair that for 9 months a Westfield resident tried to get the information on the illegal "safe zone" but was never given the information by the Brocton Superintendent or BOE????

Instead NY State had to get involved.

Shouldn't the Brocton school have given that information about the illegal "safe zone" up when asked 9 months ago.

Isn't that a real slap in the face to Westfield residents that they now have to pay back the $90,000.00 Brocton illegal "safe zone" money?

Shouldn't Brocton have told us about that 9 months ago when asked?

Because of that payback AND OTHER TRASNPORTATION COSTs NOT INCLUDED IN THE STUDY IT IS PREDICTED THAT WESTFIELD WILL SEE A TAX INCREASE IF THE MERGER PASSES.

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 7:45 AM

Another slap in the face to Westfield residents is the fact that the Brocton BOE just gave its superintendent a new 3 year contract. If he is not employed by the district if the merger passes he will continue to be paid around $125,000 per year plus benefits.

Hey Westfield residents, DO YOU UNDERSTAND YOU WILL BE PAYING HIS SALARY OF $125,000.00 AND HE ISN'T EVEN WORKING.

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shofuh

Sep-26-13 7:45 AM

These school merger grants are just a Ponzu scheme. The money is still our tax dollars. Its just easier to trick the taxpayer this way.

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 7:47 AM

How many of you Westfield taxpayers get a check for $125,000.00 a year and get 2 years payoff for not even working?

What a slap in the face to Westfield residents.

Don't you think the Brocton BOE should have notified Westfield that they were thinking about giving their superintendent a sweetheart 3 year deal so they COULD HAVE GOTTEN SOME INPUT FROM THE WESTFIELD TAXPAYERS???

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shofuh

Sep-26-13 7:48 AM

Just think, if westfield is seeing a local tax increase now, how much the taxes will go up in 10 years when the state grants go away?!?

AND, WESTFIELD WILL LOSE THEIR SCHOOL!

Hah, what a joke this plan is.

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listen

Sep-26-13 7:56 AM

If this was a City, Town or Village employee and they were given a 3 year deal right before merger talks John D' of the Observer would be all over it. Sounds like a terrible deal for the Westfield taxpayers.

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teacherteacher

Sep-26-13 8:01 AM

Listen, you can add teachers into that conversation of being given a 3 year deal when the future is not known.

I concur, bad deal for the Westfield residents.

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 8:08 AM

If you want the real facts regarding the Westfield-Brocton merger

go to Facebook and type in:

The Real facts for the Westfield-Brocton merger

Know the facts before you vote.

If the merger is passed on Oct 9, 2013 you do not get a second chance. Its over.

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DKexpat

Sep-26-13 11:37 AM

So, Bill, is it safe to say you'd vote against the merger?

:-)

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Westfieldparents

Sep-26-13 12:57 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the current school districts, and therefore any employment contracts be dissolved as a result of the merger? If so the teachers and supers would negotiate new contracts and current contracts would be null and void?

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 1:36 PM

Westfieldparents, you are wrong. The Brocton superintendent's contract as well as the Westfield Superintendent's contract will not be void if the merger passes.

They both have contracts and the new district will have to honor them. That being said if the merger is passed and the Brocton superintendent gets his walking papers he will also walk away with the remainder of his contract which will be $250,000.00 pay and benefits paid mostly by the Westfield taxpayers.

Go to facebook and type in:

The Real Facts for the Westfield-Brocton Merger.

Know the facts BEFORE you vote

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 1:39 PM

dkexpat, you may be correct. However if I were a Brocton resident I would be voting for the merger because it benefits them. I don't blame them, I blame the Westfield Board of Education for not getting the facts out correctly and representing the Westfield taxpayer. Shame on them :(

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DKexpat

Sep-26-13 2:10 PM

Here’s a comparison:

2013 – Chau Cty – 18 districts No. of students = 20,338 Sum of all budgets = $376,205,000 Avg. spending per pupil = $18,498

2013 – my county – 1 district No. of students = 70,144 One school budget = $809,072,000 Spending per pupil = $11,534

We spend a little over twice as much money, but we cover almost 3.5x as many students, spending over 1/3 less per pupil than the small fiefdoms in Chau Cty.

And it’s mind-boggling that a district working on a merger would guarantee a super’s contract past the consolidation date. They should have simply held a competition between the two supers and selected the better of the two to run the merged entity. And combine business offices, purchasing, guidance, maintenance, etc. THAT’S where real savings come from...

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Jack366

Sep-26-13 2:17 PM

Westfeild Parent you are correct it is BillWestfeildNY that is wrong. It is a new district and new contracts have to be drawn up. If BillWestfeild had even read the report he would know that current contracts are only paid as long as it takes to get new contracts into place with a time limit of two years before binding arbitration takes place in a court. People don't be fooled by BillWestfeild these people are agents of the teachers unions who want to keep everything the way it is currently so it does not distrurb the current system they. He is just fear mongering anything they can to scare people.

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shofuh

Sep-26-13 2:24 PM

Jack D, unfortunately you are not correct, but keep spreading the lies. How much are they paying you?

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 3:03 PM

A contract between the superintendent and the district is binding for the term of the contract. The Westfield superintendent has 1 year left the Brocton superintendent has three years left. Period.

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commentor

Sep-26-13 3:07 PM

When they were discussing the Fred/Brocton merger it was my understanding the teachers with the highest money and benefits in their contracts would have the lower brought up to their level. There was, however, only going to be one super but I don't know how their contracts were going to be dealt with. A new school board will be elected but unfortunately teacher contracts are not null and void.

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 3:12 PM

Jack366, I bet you think the illegal safe zone is a lie too,

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 3:12 PM

Oh and the 35 million dollars Brocton has in debt that is just a misunderstand,

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BillWestfieldNY

Sep-26-13 3:14 PM

People do not be fooled by people like Jack366.

Go to facebook and type in

The Real Facts for the Westfield-Brocton Merger

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