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Repowering: NRG’s proposal more vital

October 17, 2013

On a day after our region received terrible news regarding the Lake Shore Health Care Center’s closing, our eyes shift to Albany regarding the Public Service Commission hearing this mornin....

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PR24601

Oct-21-13 9:38 AM

hadenough - well put, the mayor's office should be drumming up a contingency budget that shows no NRG revenue. They should be at that level anyway, and enjoying a surplus each year, but the fat cat eats all of what he's given right?

This city could easily get by on a budget without NRG income. It just has gotten too used to the largess. That's why I labeled the flatline budget this year a complete failure. Anything but an overall decrease, to the tune of $NRG, is a failure at this point. Time to plan ahead.

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PhilJulian

Oct-20-13 10:22 AM

DARKSTAR - you make a good point about peak period requirements and on that basis it may be wise to speculate that the PSC will require the Dunkirk Plant to operate but only as a source of power during peak periods. I doubt that NRG could justify a $500 million investment on that basis.

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hadenough

Oct-20-13 8:20 AM

pr24601. Exactly. Has the Mayor in his 2014 taken into account the potential loss of millions of dollars? No he has not. A responsible Mayor would have taken into account that possibility. If the plant closes what is Dolces plan to make up the deficit? Increase taxes? institute a road use tax? As you can se there is no way that much money can be found. Looks like not much thought was given to this possibility and the impact on the city tax payer

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joew

Oct-19-13 5:56 PM

No,you?

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Captain

Oct-19-13 10:35 AM

Again, joe?...you just can't resist, can you?

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joew

Oct-18-13 4:07 PM

Watch what happens next "PR",you'll be accused to watching too much Fox news!

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DarkStar

Oct-18-13 12:47 PM

I'm amused by those claiming the power isn't needed when there were at least six times this summer when we the company I work for was contacted and requested to curtail electrical use (by 60-80%) because the usage was close to maxing out and it was still climbing.

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PR24601

Oct-18-13 9:36 AM

hadenough, it's not the employment figures that everyone is worried about. It's loss of tax revenue if their doors are shut. Who's going to make up the lost revenue? Since you know DK isn't going to shrink the budget.

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hadenough

Oct-18-13 9:15 AM

Exactly how many people will NRG employee if it converts to natural gas? Dunkirk does not get its electricity from the plant. 500 million is the base figure wait until change orders are needed pushing up the cost. Now NRG has to get that money back where is it going to come from? Ah yes the users of electricity. So your electric bill goes up you have no work food prices go up and you find yourself picking up cans to make ends meet.

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FedUpTaxpayer

Oct-17-13 11:42 PM

If they could just connect a giant treadmill on the way out of Chautauqua County to the power grid, they'd have more power then they'd know what to do with, at least until there was no one left.

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commentor

Oct-17-13 8:04 PM

Dunkirk NRG not on the agenda? Probably because the answer is shut it down. If they made a decision on one site why the stall with this one??

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localresident

Oct-17-13 7:59 PM

Interesting to think what would happen to annex into PA. NY has many sins it refuses to account for, including the aforementioned Thruway tollbooths that "miraculously" have repelled every swing of the wrecking ball that taxpayers were guaranteed waaaaay back when I-90 was being built. Benefits offerings could be trimmed, too, as well as could the lobbyist's effects on Albany, and the back room deals, shady promises from all NY pols, the raping of the average resident by Albany is inexcusable, all at the feet of the greased palms those feet are connected to, not to mention the outright corruption. But, that's another story altogether...

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commentor

Oct-17-13 7:58 PM

Marcia must be on welfare. That's why she get more from the state than us working, taxpaying citizens. Most of what we earn goes to taxes. Taxed wages, taxed clothing, taxed home, taxed car, taxed luxury items etc. Every time you turn around you are paying a tax.

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joew

Oct-17-13 5:27 PM

Gee PR you sound as if you've had it,join the club!

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instigator

Oct-17-13 3:57 PM

power not required, wasnt required when nimo owned it, #1 polluter in chau co for decades, good riddance.

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PR24601

Oct-17-13 12:58 PM

Hey marcia, I guarantee I pay a heck of a lot more into this state than they give me back. Let's see.. I own a house, have a job, and a family, make too much to qualify for any assistance, have private health insurance that I pay for along with my employer, I don't pay enough interest on my mortgage and taxes to write anything off. I buy all my and clothes and pay my full utility bills. Yet I pay 7+% of my income to the state in taxes, and I pay the state's share of sales tax, I have to pay to drive on I-90, I have to pay to register and inspect my car each year. I pay state regulatory fees on some of my bills.

Tell me.. what the ---- is the state doing for me? Tell me where I get so much more out of this state than I put in. Tell me how NYC is making my life easier. Tell me marcia!!

You're so stupid, it's beyond comprehension. I mean really, you are slow. Mentally slow. You have to be - there's no other explanation for the stupidity that comes out of your mouth.

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Marcia

Oct-17-13 11:25 AM

PR, such open minded intelligence. You know that we get a lot more in benefits from the state than we pay in (kind of like the southern states get a lot more from the feds.) We need NYC more than they need us.

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PR24601

Oct-17-13 9:34 AM

It's time for secession. To the great wilderness of PA. We have more in common with our brethren in Bradford than we'll ever have with Buffalo, Albany, and of course NYC.

Chautauqua County (and probably CattCo) need to leave the state. It's for the greater good. NYC claims they keep WNY afloat, well then release us to PA so you don't have to care for us. We here know that we could be unshackled from the burden of the NYC legislature, and the enviro-whacks that will attempt to keep NRG from converting.

Also, PA benefits are not so loosely thrown around. Maybe we can reclaim DK from the illegals, and Jamestown from the drug whores. They can all move to Erie County and get their handouts from the liberal largess.

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DKexpat

Oct-17-13 8:34 AM

Gotta (surprise, surprise) agree with Steiner on hydraulic fracturing of oil/gas wells. It’s been going on since 1947, and of the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of wells that have been fracked, there have been relatively few casing failures where groundwater has been contaminated.

Should we ban highways because there are auto accidents? Airlines because of the occasional crash? Fast food because of cholesterol?

Sometimes “the greater good” is paramount and, in this case, the glut of cheap natural gas is what could save NRG and Dunkirk’s tax base.

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Steiner

Oct-17-13 7:59 AM

We have an interesting thing this repowering to natural gas. Why is natural gas so cheap ? Fracking, thats why. Lo and behold, our local activists, the LWV are against it, prefering the dunderhead green energy non option. Gals simply cannot grasp science. here is the proof. On PBS, Raw and ready, about huge earth movers. The importance of mineral oil for the brakes . High temp resistance needed because of the total vehicle weight 400 -500 tons. Who made the first mineral oil ? Guess who ? John D rockefeller and std oil. The whales were close to extinction for the whale oil. So Std oil makes the oil and a host of other products.Saves the whale and helps society. Those greedy corporations eh libs ? Ida Tarbell, tries to wreck science , like a good activist woman should. In our times, the gals are against fracking and even thermal plants.Picking up where Ida left off ! Nice job gals !

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Clowns

Oct-17-13 6:41 AM

It is time for NRG to close. Turn out the lights D'Agostino. hahahahaha

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