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Forestville: You get what you overpay for

November 14, 2013

It is almost ironic....

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instigator

Nov-15-13 3:21 PM

folks become lawyers so they know how to legally get away with murder, case in point....

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Captain

Nov-15-13 8:14 AM

It didn't take JD long to prove what a hypocrite he is by doing exactly the same thing in this article as he accused Christopher of doing in his piece on "Greed in Healthcare", which JD apparently claimed is why he "had to" censor it, or as Paul put it, "butchered."

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rumblefish

Nov-15-13 7:32 AM

JD's rule, point the finger and don't worry about the 4 that point back

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WatchDog

Nov-15-13 7:32 AM

Hey Paul…This is the same Mike Bolender who represents other towns and villages to the tune of $300,000 per year. He claims to be the town or village attorney and then he wants a huge pension. So far, the State Comptroller's Office has not charged him, but they should. He is a leech on the system.

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rosebud

Nov-15-13 3:22 AM

I understood that Bolander was also Att. for Mayville. He must rake a pretty nice buck. How many Cites &/or Villages are paying him???

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Christopher

Nov-14-13 10:16 PM

Hey! Back off! Bolender isn't a Dr., so he's fair game! :-)

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roughneck

Nov-14-13 9:40 PM

Mike Bolander is an attorney and I'm sure he knows a thing or two about libel also. How much is your paper worth!?

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roughneck

Nov-14-13 9:33 PM

Wow John, have you a clue on how journalism works? This is awful to say the least. Have you even tried to contact the former attorney, clerk, or trustess? Those people aside from the attorney live in the village and pay taxes too. If there was a "problem" don't you suppose they would have questioned it? You are very incompitent at your job as a so called journalist. I'll close with this..... nice piece of investigative journalism Johnnie! Oye vae

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PROGRESSIVE44

Nov-14-13 7:55 PM

Simply amazing. A bunch of conservatives posting thoughts akin to my own. Repeatedly, the Observer treats information from Mayville and our republican representatives at both county and state level as "press releases". The articles fail to ask questions about undocumented claims and fail to solicit comments from other parties. Example: No comments about reactions of employees or milk suppliers who will be greatly disadvantaged by moving cheese production from Conewango valley to Blockville.

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rumblefish

Nov-14-13 4:13 PM

we totally understand where you are coming from Darkstar, we learned a valuable lesson years ago, " to thy own self be true", others may or may not agree with us, but we don't play the game of band wagon jumping or agreeing for the sake of being politically correct, we are who we are, and it is what it is, if you agree ok, if you don't well that's ok to, because we are ok with ourselves

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DarkStar

Nov-14-13 3:58 PM

rumblefish,

Oh I understand it's his paper and he can do as they please, but personally I hold the press to a higher standard then someone commenting here or sending in a letter to the editor.

I don't expect people posting here, or writing to the editor to spend hours researching a comment and then documenting everything in the post, but IMO that is exactly what the news media should do.

Are his opinions biased? Sure they are, as are most other news sources, it's just that some are more obvious then others and many refuse to see any bias when they agree with the views expressed.

Funny you mention subscriptions, because I canceled mine years ago on only read a few headline stories and occasional editorial pieces.

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DarkStar

Nov-14-13 3:47 PM

Christopher,

Thanks....... I think. lol!

Seriously, I do appreciate the comment. While we don't always agree I do respect you and your opinions (although sometimes it might not seem that way.)

You don't follow a party line, and I respect those intelligent enough to not blinding follow any political party. In fact I think your the only one here that I've seen called a left wing wacko in one story's comments and a right wing wacko in another on the same day (there should be some sort of award for that.)

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Captain

Nov-14-13 3:25 PM

DarkStar, I couldn't agree more! I've always supported cost-efficient govt. If labor costs must be modified, then such savings should apply equally, in all areas of govt, INCLUDING non-union positions, not just at the CCH.

It doesn't change how I feel about the CCH. This service is too valuable and too important to gamble away on private owners. What if it doesn't succeed, or gets "flipped" multiple times, or the care declines to unacceptable levels, then what? If you add all the negatives (which I'm tired of listing), then any reasonable (and caring) person would agree the risks far outweigh any minor savings (if any at all).

Edwards & the CCLeg are selling the home b/c they couldn't win at the negotiating table. It's a stand-alone operation that will sell easily. We are all paying the price; residents, patients & CCH employees for Edwards & the CCLeg's failure to, or deliberate intent not to, protect a valuable community asset.

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rumblefish

Nov-14-13 3:12 PM

Darkstar has raised valid points to consider, but we must remember it's JD's ball and he will bounce it any way he chooses, and we are sure that someone will comment that if we don't like it don't subscribe, that seems to be the pat answer to criticism of JD's agenda and story reporting

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Christopher

Nov-14-13 3:07 PM

That's "excellent", obviously. Sorry, I got excited!

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Christopher

Nov-14-13 3:06 PM

EXCELLANT post Darkstar!!! I mean that, really superior to so many on these pages by so many. Congratulations on your ability to actually think!

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DarkStar

Nov-14-13 1:57 PM

Captain,

Well they either have one, or JD himself down voted our comments. lol!

Seriously though, the paper's reporting does such a disservice to it's readers it's not funny. And I'm not talking about their opinions, it's that they don't invest the time to back up their opinions when they could easily do so.

For example, since they oppose the size of government in Chautauqua why on God's green earth wouldn't they get off their butts and run a series of articles pointing out just how large and expensive all the various layers of government are in the County?

Would it really be hard for a reporter to pull all the budgets together and add everything up?

For example, how many school teachers, police, clerks, etc... are their spread across the County, and what is the total County wide cost for each of these groups?

I think the totals would stun many, and might make more people wake up and take notice that government has grown out of control, even at the County level.

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Captain

Nov-14-13 11:24 AM

You're right DarkStar, what was I thinking? ;)

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DarkStar

Nov-14-13 11:06 AM

Captain,

The observer has reporters???

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FredoniaFred

Nov-14-13 9:27 AM

The county guarantees tax payments to towns and villages by NYS law so that localities can properly plan budgets. Many localities got in the habit of placing building demolitions onto tax bills to get reimbursed. Mark Thomas looked the other way when this happened. Greg Edwards put a stop to this practice several years ago and all towns and villages were notified to stop this practice. Forestville tried to sneak this one thru. At $247K, it was a hard one to sneak.

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Captain

Nov-14-13 8:57 AM

I'm not putting the entire blame on Ms Petersen, but since she was the village Clerk/Treasurer when this all went down, she could clear up a few questions regarding how this debt was officially recorded, and possibly offer a plausible explanation on how the state comptroller may have overlooked it.

Can't the OBSERVER assign a reporter to ask Ms P such questions?

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Captain

Nov-14-13 8:08 AM

I told you Christopher, JD has a "discretionary" policy that "selectively criticizes" issues (or individuals) that only HE feels readers need to be informed about.

I asked yesterday; didn't the NYS comptroller audit FV's books not too long ago? If so, why wasn't this large debt identified then, and recommendations made by his office to re-pay it?

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uhgtbk

Nov-14-13 8:07 AM

Mr. Bolender is another of John's personal problems. He has gone out of his way on many occasions to go after him. Isn't that what a newspaper is for??? Personal use....

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Christopher

Nov-14-13 6:36 AM

Apparently it's ok to bash lawyers, but heaven forbid anyone takes a shot at a Dr., or a GROUP of Dr.'s!

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