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January 29, 2014

When I read, listen and/or watch the politicians declare their knowledge of women, I am often amazed at the stupidity of what is too frequently said....

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Feb-01-14 3:59 PM

Yes Cade. I spend thousands a year on beer, many more thousands on hard alcohol. And don't even get me started about the money I burn through on coke, ******, and meth. I tell you, I had to take a second job just to keep up with the cost of my habits. I must have caused you a boat load of grief for you to be harboring these feelings for this long. Seek help, I did and it works.

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Jan-31-14 5:45 PM

Marcia, Mike needs that money for his beer sorry.

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Jan-31-14 5:18 PM

and also Men had families, and men had to work to support those families, AND women had to raise and nurture those families of 3 ,4 or more children. So Steiner It is not all about the man is IT. Except when he wants to dump his load or act like he is god, then it is.

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Jan-31-14 11:53 AM

Marcia, again, I am not telling you what you can and cannot do. I am telling you I don't want to PAY for your choices. You made them, now own them.

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Jan-31-14 9:59 AM

Steiner has continuously praised men and knocked women, we have always wondered how steiner came to be without a woman involved, we believe his reply will do noting to clear up this issue, but we had to ask

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Jan-31-14 9:50 AM

hey annette, men built the country. the govt controls a large part of health care via the ACA. You posters seem to miss that.Dk, you miss over and over , that every major process running in life was invented by a man. you post things that would be akin to curtains hung in a house that men built and think, wow, i sunk, you proved you dont know what foundational work is . You dont know what science rests on. other than that, you have average intelilgence.

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Jan-31-14 12:28 AM

"What about v i a g r a (it was blocked earlier)should I be able to decide that is not necessary" Should not be covered by obama-non-care any more then birth control UNLESS and only if needed for some other medical reason.

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Jan-31-14 12:24 AM

"I'd rather see you dead than with another man" A line from the song ""Run for Your Life" is track #14 on the album Rubber Soul. It was written by Lennon, John / Mccartney, Paul" Read more: Beatles - Run For Your Life Lyrics |MetroLyrics ht tp://w ww.metrolyrics.c om/run-for-your-life-lyrics-beatles.html Can you tell me what song Elvis sang it in.

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Jan-30-14 9:09 PM

localresident, why is this the only type of care that people think they have the right to control? I am sure there are other things that are a "choice" to some people. Some think that blood transfusions are wrong, do they have the right to make that decision for others? What about v i a g r a (it was blocked earlier)should I be able to decide that is not necessary. That is much more a choice than birth control. The reason for birth control (having children) is medical. What if your body could not handle a pregnancy due to medical conditions? What if you have endometriosis and the only thing that would alleviate the pain is the pill? Do you still think you have a right to make that decision arbitrarily? Medical choices are between a doctor and a patient, and we go down a slippery slope when we think we can make that decision for others. You pretend to not want government intrusion in personal decisions, what do you think this is?

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Jan-30-14 6:23 PM

"No one will answer the question on why politicians think they should be able to tell an individual what type of medical care they can have."

Ok, here goes. Birth control by and large is a choice, not an illness or an affliction...except in the case of rape or similar incident. If abortion is left on the table as a method, some will make use of it more than they probably should. Did privatized insurance pay for the Pill? Some did, but now that it's coming out of tax money, this is a resultant conflict that some people have. what medicines are now going to have skyrocketing costs because someone can get away with it? this might be a big one. People are leery of making this a built-in.

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Jan-30-14 6:07 PM

Back to the article, in 2012 the VA state legislature passed a law requiring an invasive vaginal ultrasound. Rhe Repub governor vetoed that, and the law changed to an (external) ultrasound 24 hours before the procedure and the doctor must offer the chance to view it.

Clinics are now required to meet hospital architectural standards, right down to the number of parking spaces and width of corridors – an attempt to them. And it’s worked – several have already closed, one because its corridors were 4’10” wide instead of 5’ and they couldn’t widen them.

Effective Jan 1st, VA health plans in the state’s heathcare exchange will cover abortion only in cases rape, incest or when the woman’s life in danger. Public employees’ plans are limited to the same. Public funding is limited to the same.

The Repub gubernatorial candidate (then the state atty gen) lost last NOV, in part, because he spoke against abortion in all cases, including rape and incest.

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Jan-30-14 4:45 PM

Not surprising to me, most of the comments have little or nothing to do with the points Vicki has emphasized. Many men believe their needs and wants take priority over those of women, as evidenced by the politicians quoted in the Commentary. I recently heard Elvis sing "I'd rather see you dead than with another man." One line slipped into one of his songs. That was 1957 - in many ways, women are still faced with that mindset. It's time for loving, as my brother said to me yesterday. Women are to be protected by their men, not hurt. Children of rape are victims as well as their mothers. Ive never heard of anything good resulting from rape. And these men who want to control women's choices relating to reproduction should keep their penises in their pants and their mouths shut.

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Jan-30-14 1:39 PM

Steiner, you’ll like this one:

In 1938 Walt Disney Productions rejected a woman’s application to enter the Disney training program for cartooning, providing in the rejection letter: “Women do not do any of the creative work in connection with preparing cartoons for the screen, as that task is performed entirely by young men. For this reason, girls are not considered for the training school.”

Although . . . four years later Walt Disney Productions hired its first female animator – her first project was creating the art for Bambi.

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Jan-30-14 12:17 PM

Cade, I don't know who you are and I don't really care. The fact that you want to hide from, rather than own your stance, on issues is enough information for me. But if you even had a clue as to who Lee is you would know he really didn't like that moniker. So please... stop using it.

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Jan-30-14 10:01 AM

No one will answer the question on why politicians think they should be able to tell an individual what type of medical care they can have. And yes there are comparisons to other things like asthma medicine. The pill (not the only prescription contraception by the way) is used for many other female related problems. And it should only be between a doctor and a patient what medicines they use. Are diet pills a choice? ****** certainly is. These are medical issues and no one else's business. And there was a ruling years ago that if an insurance company included prescriptions, they had to include contraceptives. The churches and other organizations having been covering these things for years. Why is it all of a sudden an issue?

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Jan-30-14 9:31 AM

cade, the fluke gal probably spent more money on her cell phone or smart phone during the same period. that a gal would testify like the fluke gal did just gives foddder to me again and again. something is wrong in the gal population when they allow such nonsense to happen. It just shows you, gals are obsessed with their bodies. Look at the antics of the pop stars. those gals love strutting their stuff. So if birth control is so cheap, why are the gals complaining ? It was like that in college for me in the 70s. the gals would show me their birth control pills they got from the infirmary on campus at a very cheap cost. like one gals father told me, i dont want a pregnant daughter cuz i know i have hotties for daughters. what happened in 40 years to the gals ?

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Jan-30-14 9:13 AM

CNSNews****) – Although Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke testified to the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee last month that contraception can cost a law student $3,000 over three years and that some of her fellow students could not afford it, a Target store only 3 miles from the law school currently sells a month's supply of birth control pills for only $9 to people who do not have insurance plans covering contraceptives.

That would make the total cost for birth control pills for a student who decided to use them for all three years of law school just $324.

Fluke was the sole witness who appeared on Feb. 23 before an all-Democratic panel chaired by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).


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Jan-30-14 9:08 AM

ask lucky lee

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Jan-30-14 9:01 AM

birth control is a pitance on the health care debt.

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Jan-30-14 9:00 AM

The real issue is want we are being charged by hospitals. did anyone see the guy that got bite by a snake and spent 18 whole hours in the hospital. When he got the bill it was $75,000. but because he was under blue cross the total bill was reduced to just over $20,000. WHat ? Oh wait you have insuance,ok we will reduce your debt by $55,000. Tell me how that is right !!!!!! So if you didnt have insuarnce you have to $75000. Sweet deal for the hospital, because if you dont pay $75000, they write it all off. Tpo top the cake the meds cost $750. during his 18hr visit.

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Jan-30-14 8:53 AM

and when mikey was a little boy, i bet he loved when his gal was on birth control.

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Jan-30-14 2:53 AM

Really? the little blue pill is censored now? Wouldn't want to offend anyones delicate sensibilities while they are on the way to murder another baby or two.

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Jan-30-14 2:52 AM

Yes Marcia, let's compare asthma medication to birth control. Maybe then we can compare antibiotics to ******? You really do grasp at straws with a vice grip.

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Jan-29-14 8:07 PM

hey vicki, the rape comment, meant by god, you said really !entirely possible. the european leaders of the last 100 years, that would be churchill, lord balfour and lloyd george and others believed in reincarnation. they had a list of the key players in history and who they reincarnated as as the time rolled by. they formulated govt policy on this. these are facts i obtained from reading many books. Vicki, you live in a small snapshot of time. No scientists like steiner will do this. All my work, even the chemical work was drawn from decades of time. the steinertrons if you have been reading my posts have been drawn from 1000s of years of time. it is unthinkable to the minds e have today that such time spanning and thinking takes place, but it does. read history of the great leaders. they gave us the world we have today, it dates from WW1, not 2

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Jan-29-14 8:00 PM

of course, cronig is NOT predictable. How many church lady gaggles have we seen ? how many slams against repubs. How many liberal largess posts ? how many requests from steiner for the list of govt approved and funded science projects that gave us the world we live in. All refused by the unlearned cronig. yet he still thinks he is smart. its the other way cronig. it shows how liberal and ignorant you are.

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