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New technology and shortfalls

February 25, 2014

With all the local concern about the drastic shortfalls school districts are facing when planning their budgets for the next year, it is surely interesting that a number of these same institutions......

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DarkStar

Feb-28-14 10:44 AM

Marcia,

And Obama started with a $458 billion dollar deficit raised taxes and yet still managed to increase the deficit buy almost a trillion dollars.

Also every year under Obama the deficit has been at least double Bush's highest deficit year, and in fact the total deficit spending under Bush was less then the deficit for any two years under Obama.

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joew

Feb-27-14 8:58 AM

Marcia there was NO surplus,smoke and mirrors and intragovernmental accounting methods! Do the research OK? I've said before and I'll say it again,if the government bookkeeping methods were held to the same standards as the private sector the whole bunch would be in the slammer!

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Marcia

Feb-27-14 12:44 AM

Seriously Darkstar? Bush had a surplus when he was elected. He quickly gave that to the rich,and created the deficits with two unpaid for wars, tax cuts and Medicare part d. Now the republicans insist that every dime spent be offset? What happened to that idea when they held power. It seems it's only necessary when the needy and middle class are helped.

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cruisin

Feb-26-14 6:09 PM

Sorry, but having an ipad or any computer has nothing to do with 'high tech'. High tech is the secret stuff the military invents behind closed doors. GPS use to be high-tech. Now, its just every day tech - same as ipads and computers. Observer = pease stop throwing around words you have no understanding of.

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DarkStar

Feb-26-14 4:35 PM

Check out CNN's website for the store today titled "I'm quitting my job. Thanks, Obamacare!"

They are trying to show that people quitting their jobs due to the handouts is a good thing and it would be funny if taxpayers weren't being robbed to pay for it all and if the ultimate goal isn't to destroy healthcare as we know it so the left can use that as an excuse to push a single payer plan again.

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DarkStar

Feb-26-14 2:31 PM

A perfect example is the liar and chief in Washington right now. Obama promised that if the GOP let him raise taxes on the rich that he would support cuts in spending, so eventually the GOP relented and instead of the spending cuts Obama promised he started pushing a proposal for even more tax increased.

So why exactly should any member of the GOP believe a single word coming out of his lying mouth?

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DarkStar

Feb-26-14 2:26 PM

jo1952,

Decreasing the deficit is good, BUT don't expect me to kiss Obama's feet because the deficit is double what it was before he took office.

Tax revenue has increased $188 billion since he took office, but spending has increased over $700 billion, and this despite one war being over and the other has been winding down the past couple years. What this shows is not only has Obama been spending any "peace dividend" but he's actual gone above and beyond that and spent far more also.

So my question to the left is, if the wars were what was bankrupting us, as you all claimed, why has spending increased as the wars have ended?

Not that I really expect a real answer, I mean the dems have made careers out of promising to cut spending in the future if they are allowed to increase spending or taxes now, but they outright lie because they never intend, and never do cut spending.

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joew

Feb-26-14 2:00 PM

The decrease in the deficit is simply because it was so high to start with,that coupled with sequester and the kick in of higher taxes,higher corporation taxes,and transfers from Fannie & Freddie into the treasury. Spending is still WAY out of control and come 2016 it's back into the hole! Darkstar is correct!

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jo1952

Feb-26-14 9:20 AM

Was supposed to say Darkstar

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jo1952

Feb-26-14 9:19 AM

Darmstadt, the deficit has decrease 50 percent since Obama has been in office. And Christopher is correct, it has increased with every trickle down administration. Even the Pope agrees with that.

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DarkStar

Feb-26-14 8:14 AM

Funny, I thought our elected leaders were supposed to work for the good of the people, not the good of the government?

Tax receipts for 2013 were the highest they have ever been, one war is over and the other has been winding way down and yet spending continues to outpace everything.

During Bush's last year in office in 2008 tax revenues were $2.524 trillion and spending was $2.9825 trillion which resulted in a deficit of $458.6 billion.

In 2013, just 5 years later, receipts were $2.712 trillion and spending was $3.6849 trillion and the deficit was $972.9 billion (despite all the earlier praise claiming it would be $650 or so billion)

So two wars all but over, tax receipts at record levels, spending also at record levels and yet you still think the problem is that people aren't taxed enough?

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Christopher

Feb-25-14 6:10 PM

EASY answer to that, darkstar. Yep, one war over, another winding down, but the collapsed economy has never recovered, jobs that disappeared stayed gone, even the so-called improving housing market has yet to reach levels even close to what they were before the collapse, SO, each and every social safety net program there is working overtime to feed people that USED TO WORK! Taxes collected are nowhere near what they should be, at the Federal level, and the deficit is actually smaller instead of those facts under President Obama, MUCH lower than when he came into office. One can only imagine where we'd be if everyone in Congress actually worked for the good of the government instead of their respective parties. Trickle Down economics is the biggest lie ever to emanate from Washington, and it's NOT a Democrat platform or idea. In fact, each and every president who's subscribed to that idiotic theory has left office with gigantic deficits.

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DarkStar

Feb-25-14 4:43 PM

A perfect example of a $1000 solution to a $1 problem was what I saw years ago when my son was in Kindergarten in Fredonia. They had just recently spent something like $10 million on networking the school and installing computers in every classroom and in my son's class the main use of the investment was to replace the old flash cards that used to make from index cards or construction paper in class.

But of course they didn't totally replace them since the students still needed to make them to take home. lol!

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DarkStar

Feb-25-14 4:39 PM

tjefson,

I agree with all of that 100%.

As for cellphones, I threw my cell away about 13 years ago and was a much happier for it, but broken down just over two years ago when my mother's memory issues became considerably worse, and work had been hounding me for several years to get one, so I gave in, but only because I was concerned that I would miss a call about my mother (I work 50-60 hours a week so work can wait until I get home. lol!)

As for your "I'm not that important" line, I have to laugh, I've long used a similar line when someone in front of me in a line is more interested in their call then they are paying for their stuff and getting out of the way, my exact line was "Unless your a Dr being called in to preform emergency surgery you just not that important, either pay for your stuff or get out of the line and take your call!" lol!

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tjefson

Feb-25-14 3:46 PM

Darkstar, I am glad you have a sense of humor. To be honest, I am not that much of a tech guy. I don't even have a cell phone. I am just not that important. My response is more about objecting to being taken to the cleaners by the Public Teachers Union and School Administrators. You can probably deduct, I am not a big fan of the Police Dept. either. Not that I don't respect and value the need for these people. However, they should not be bankrupting cities in their desire for never ending higher wages, benefits and pensions.

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DarkStar

Feb-25-14 3:09 PM

tjefson,

One last thing, note that when I say technology isn't a replacement for teaching I am not saying it can't replace a teacher, as long as teaching still occurs, but technology isn't instructive just because it exists.

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DarkStar

Feb-25-14 3:00 PM

Might someday effective robotic teachers be developed? Sure but that doesn't mean that tech always adds value to education.

Again, look how computers were introduced, they "needed" them in each classroom, but had no idea what to do with them once they spent all the money to put them there, and even to this day they are often $1000 answers to a $1 question.

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DarkStar

Feb-25-14 2:52 PM

tjefson,

Pardon? LOL!

Yeah, you caught me, I'm a teacher, ask anyone who comments here and/or reads the comment of others! LOL!

While I am in fact, not a teacher, you obvious have an overly reverential view of technology.

The nail gun and power drill didn't replace carpenters, but they can be used to allow the carpenter to be more efficient, ultimately resulting in fewer carpenters being needed.

Give a kid who has bad grades and a bad teacher an ipad and the only thing that's changed is the kid has a toy, the taxpayer got fleeced a bit more and Apple's made a little more money.

It's not the technology, it's how it's used and since most of those in the school system, both running them and working in them, have no idea how to effectively use modern technology the chances of it being used effectively in the classroom is virtually zero.

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DarkStar

Feb-25-14 2:41 PM

Christopher,

Funny how those who love to blame "the wars" for the debt but refuse to address why now that one is over and the other has winding down spending is still is at record highs year after year?

In fact spending has increased about 20% since Obama took office, despite one war ending and the other winding down.

If it were the wars bankrupting us shouldn't spending be going down instead of up?

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tjefson

Feb-25-14 1:35 PM

DKexpat, I apologize, my post was intended for Darkstar who indicated that technology could not replace teachers.

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tjefson

Feb-25-14 1:26 PM

DKexpat, possibly yor are a teacher to have such a shallow view of technology. Its interesting how people who argue for technology would conclude that a human instructor would be better than a programmed robotic instructor. Self preservation is instinctual, and your response was very predictable.

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Christopher

Feb-25-14 1:14 PM

That of course is "two" not "too".

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DarkStar

Feb-25-14 1:13 PM

tjefson,

As a proud "right wing" conservative I feel I need to inform you that if you really wish to be taken serious here you really shouldn't tie your horse to Steiner as constant rants, insults and misogynistic statements show him to be nothing more then a joke or troll and does more to hurt the causes he claims to support them most people who oppose them do.

Many of us don't even bother to read his drivel anymore since it's a waste of time.

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Christopher

Feb-25-14 1:13 PM

Oh, and tjefson, it was a Republican leadership that lowered taxes while fighting too wars, one completely unethical and unnecessary, while lowering taxes, that bankrupted the country, not Democrats. Those same people have controlled the House for most of the last 12 years.

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Christopher

Feb-25-14 1:11 PM

And tjefson, not all people who are too enlightened to buy into the Neo-con/Tea Party c r a p are Democrats. Some if us just might be old fashioned, Eisenhower type Republicans looking for a real leader instead of some right wing dogma spouting idiot in complete denial of reality.

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