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Veterans owed better service

April 4, 2014

Veterans Administration officials insist they are making progress in reducing the time those who have served our country in uniform must wait for decisions on disability benefits....

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joew

Apr-07-14 4:28 PM

I'll remeber next time you use your filthy mouth pauly to report abuse like you or your other name "Captain" did! Typical union thugery tactics!

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joew

Apr-07-14 3:50 PM

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joew

Apr-06-14 7:19 PM

He materialized right above your post Kapitan.HA HA HA

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Captain

Apr-05-14 8:59 PM

"...I couldn't find anyone stupid enough to bet against it."

HAHAHA!

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Christopher

Apr-05-14 5:18 PM

I predicted a response like this from you. You're so predictable. I couldn't make a bet though, I couldn't find anyone stupid enough to bet against it.

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joew

Apr-05-14 5:04 PM

Great show by the US Army field band today at King Concert Hall. Veterans of all services were honored and the hall was packed. Thanks to the OBSERVER for yet again co-sponsoring the Armed Services bands!

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Christopher

Apr-05-14 3:46 PM

Now, on the serious side, Joey, if what you said is true, than it would follow that testing for that would be a part of a psychological profile for any prospective member of any combat arms, wouldn't you think? Failure to do that would be irresponsible at best. Unless of course the Military was using that as an excuse to deny benefits AFTERWARDS! By the way, you seem to think you';re an expoert onb everything and anything, so I guess you'd know that ADHD and ADD are too of the most abused diagnosis's in the country, often made with the flimsiest of "tests", often by Dr.'s taking the word of Teachers, for God's sake. You can look those facts up, they're out there. It doesn't surprise me that you'd take the side of the Military on that issue, not the individual Veteran. By the way, no mention or discussion on Gulf War Syndrome, etc., etc.? Of course not, those are FACTS, and of course doesn't speak well of the Military.

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Christopher

Apr-05-14 3:35 PM

**** your bet.

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joew

Apr-05-14 12:52 PM

I won a bet based on what the reply would be,so predictable.

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Christopher

Apr-05-14 11:55 AM

How you present yourself means nothing to me, you're a ******* *******.

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joew

Apr-05-14 9:24 AM

Christopher you have a major(no pun intended)problem! First you accuse me of causing the tragedy at Ft Hood and now I'm spreading lies? You might do yourself a favor and go back and read what I wrote! I'll help you a bit,I said that there is a degree of abuse with the PTSD syndrome,I did not indict all veterans suffering from PTSD by saying that. You'd think that your being an expert in all things you would realize that. I might point out as well that up to 20% of those afflicted with PTSD also are diagnosed with OCD. That fly's in the face of your assertion that OCD has little or nothing to do with PTSD. Studies also show a definite link between ADHD,ADD,and the severity of PTSD. Please note also that I use a very civil tone and need not resort to expletives to get my thoughts and points out.

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Christopher

Apr-04-14 11:11 PM

cont...The Service has always tried to duck their responsibility for Veteran's health. From the effects of gas to asbestos caused cancer to radiation issues, I could go on and on, but veterans have NEVER been "handed" anything, they have to fight for it. The Military has been literally poisoning it's soldiers in every war at least since WW I. It hasn't stopped yet. And then people like you spread the lies. Nice. By the way, I wasn't so lucky with AO poisoning. I probably exposed myself to it on purpose.

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Christopher

Apr-04-14 11:07 PM

20% of Americans have "some sort of Mental disorder"!? WEll, if you include mild anxiety attacks, mild OCD, things like that, MAYBE I'd buy that figure. Unfortunately none of those sorts of conditions would have much, if anything, to do with full blown PTSD and the like. Quit talking out of your a s s and both sides of your mouth at the same time, would you? You have no problem at all with saying your beloved veterans are milking the system, yet claim to defend them at all costs! Amazing logic there Joey. Here's a scenario for you, and it's TRUUE! Due to issues with meeting quota's when the Iraq and Afghan campaigns were going full swing (I guess not ALL of those eager beavers wanted to be heroes) standards were lowered, especially for gun slinging MOS's, to allow people with minor arrests to sign up. Later on, when PTSD claims were files, they'd look at an arrest for assault, and then claim the person had "mental issues" BEFORE they went into the service!!! cont..

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joew

Apr-04-14 7:26 PM

Regarding the ridiculous "what the military has created" comment may I point out that SAMHSA has determined that one in five americans age 18+ have had or have some sort of mental disorder. I know you detest the military pauly but your attempts to paint it the way you do is insulting to those that serve and have served. Grow up!

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joew

Apr-04-14 7:06 PM

What I wrote was very clear and I stand by what I wrote. I am very familiar with agent orange as well as agents blue,and white. Fortunately my exposure has not led to any problems. I spend time at VA hospitals and facilities and while I do not have specifics,providers and mental health care professionals have said there is abuse of the PTSD syndrome. That's all I know so do what you wish with what I said.

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Christopher

Apr-04-14 6:10 PM

Joey, you aren't implying that ex-servicemen are milking the system, are you? How many do you figure? You have a percentage in mind? Vietnam veterans are still fighting over Agent orange issues. Exampl;e: AO claims have been denied to soldiers who served in Okinawa and shipped all the AO to Vietnam, even though pictures exist of acres of barrels that are obviously leaking and have to be handled. Their exposure had to be horrendously high compared even to soldiers in the bush. How about Gulf War Syndrome, a syndrome with way more consistent symptoms then AO ever had, very specific nerve and neurological issues. I'm not sure, but the last I knew, total denial that it exists, though perhaps like AO, certain symptoms will be treated based on statistical evidence. Handling it that way prevents the Military from being sued and its well connected suppliers.

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joew

Apr-04-14 5:30 PM

Let's be clear here,PTSD in varying degrees does not by itself cause one to go on a killing spree especially against fellow service members.There are other underlying mental conditions. To a degree the claims for PTSD are abused just as claims for social security disability are. The entitlement mentality that has materialized in the last couple of decades has opened a floodgate that will be very difficult to close and those that try and control the spiral will be labeled as callus or worse!

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tjefson

Apr-04-14 2:25 PM

I have always believed one of the primary functions of government is the military to protect our liberty and freedom. It seems the current administration is always looking for ways to reduce spending on national defense. The veterans should be the first in line to be taken of, especially if the veteran was involved in combat. Personally, I think a veteran who served his country in a war deserves a pension more than someone who served 20 years in peace time. The government seems to be great at handing over everything to people like Lois Lerner, but they turn a blind eye to people who are patriotic and served their country in an honorable fashion.

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Christopher

Apr-04-14 1:36 PM

About the youngest you could be to be a WW II Veteran, allowing for a service at 17 years old and at the very end of the war, would be about 86, give or take a few months. I'd have to say illness, dementia, loss of spouses, etc., would have a HUGE impact. That being said, trauma is obviously visited upon anyone who saw combat in any war. I do know old VA hospitals all had "back wards" of medicated vets from WW I and WW II, who never saw the light of day again. LOTS of alcoholism. The ORGINAL Biker Gangs were mostly comprised of WW II fighter pilots who bought surplus Milkitary Harleys, Enfield's and such for the thrill of the speed, approximating their dive bombing days, and of course, MANY of them got pretty violent when drinking. No, it's NOT a new issue. That being said, Vietnam Vets MADE it an issue, a PUBLIC issue.

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joew

Apr-04-14 12:45 PM

We call them the Greatest Generation of military veterans, who saved the world for democracy by defeating Germany and Japan and then returned home to build the United States into a superpower after World War II.

In the popular mythology, they’re practically invincible, rarely complaining about the trauma of war.

But an investigation by The Bay Citizen and New America Media shows there’s a massive amount of pain behind that taciturn exterior: In California, World War II-era veterans are killing themselves at a rate that’s nearly four times higher than that of people the same age with no military service.

The suicide rate among these veterans is also roughly double the rate of veterans under 35, those who are returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan

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Christopher

Apr-04-14 11:31 AM

"Mental Health study showing that approximately one-quarter of troops, who have never even seen combat, exhibit some sort of psychological disorder". This is what the Volunteer Military has created. Gotta fill those quotas.

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joew

Apr-04-14 8:54 AM

The most recent Veterans bill would have passed but the Dumbocrats refused to partially fund it by closing the loophole that allows illegal invaders to claim child tax care credits to the tune of 4.2 BILLION dollars. Blaming everything on one party is off track and I might add that bill would have done nothing to reduce the case backlogs that exist.

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joew

Apr-04-14 8:46 AM

"The president’s 2015 budget keeps funding flat for mental health services, an area that could come under new scrutiny, especially following results of a decade-long Army and National Institute of Mental Health study showing that approximately one-quarter of troops, who have never even seen combat, exhibit some sort of psychological disorder".

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Christopher

Apr-04-14 6:50 AM

Every proposal to CUT Veterans Benefits has come from THE REPUBLIGIGGLES, NOT President Obama. The VA system has been backlogged for decades, ask any Vietnam vet. 265 days? I knew guys, PERSONALLY knew guys, veterans, who fought claims for 10 YEARS! It was the fighting of Vietnam veterans, mostly over PTSD and Agent Orange claims that made it better for everyone else. Heck, I can remember when PTSD was called Post Traumatic Vietnam Syndrome. That's no lie, look it up, goes back to the 70's. I have first hand experience in this system and it hasn't been all that bad. If Boehner is having that much of an issue, tell him to check out his own state. The issue is probably THERE. It does vary from state to state. Check out Florida! Horrible. I helped a friend for 3 years before he was mostly successful, and I do mean MOSTLY. He'd have been done in 18 months if processing through Buffalo. Try NYS Disability if you want a real horror show.

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tjefson

Apr-04-14 5:58 AM

These bureaucratic paper shufflers are compensated very generously to postpone the processing of these applications. Besides making sure illegals are granted citizenship is a much larger issue for the left. Its very simple, the majority in the military do not support our president, but the illegals know BHO is holding the golden ticket for them. Its all about politics and votes.

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