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Rally in area was crucial

June 1, 2014

As devastating as the impending closing of the Carriage House facilities in Dunkirk and Fredonia may be, the rally that drew hundreds on Thursday to Barker Common in Fredonia was significant....

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Captain

Jun-04-14 4:53 PM

...it sure doesn't happen often. Since you didn't say which side you agreed with, I must've mistakenly thought you agreed w/the judge ;)

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joew

Jun-04-14 1:31 PM

Wow Captain we agree on something?

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Captain

Jun-04-14 11:28 AM

Yep, we definitely have some crazy judges. The CO judge who told the baker he must ignore his religious beliefs (against same-sex marriage), ordering him to make the cake AND attend 2 YRS of sensitivity classes, should be removed b/c he apparently isn't aware the 1st Amendment states: "govt shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof.” Why can't a higher court simply overrule such wrongful decisions instead of forcing someone to go thru lengthy & costly appeals?

How 'bout that nutty judge in Niagara Falls a few yrs back? A cell phone rang in court, and the judge was so upset b/c the owner wouldn't fess up, so he ends up throwing EVERYONE who was in court that day (46 people) in jail!

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joew

Jun-03-14 8:15 PM

Speaking of freedom,anyone see the story about the baker in CO being forced to make a wedding cake for a same sex marriage? In addition he and his employees must take court ordered sensitivity training!

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tjefson

Jun-03-14 1:03 PM

Your right Captain, we don't even have the freedom to decide where our children will be educated.

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tjefson

Jun-03-14 1:00 PM

A major turning point for the country happened when GM and the Big Banks were bailed out for their irresponsible behavior. At least the Big Banks paid the money back. Even here, the money was artificially created by the Fed and profit created by interest manipulation. Contract law was tossed out the door in the to big to fail world. Now the bondholders will once again see pennies on the dollar to bail out the city of Detroit and their irresponsible behavior. The house of cards will eventually come tumbling down. The Fed is postponing the inevitable with QE, but how much longer can this go on? Will we reach the final destination of rewarding failure, while punishing success. It seems to be the path we are traveling.

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tjefson

Jun-03-14 12:50 PM

A major turning point for the country happened when GM and the Big Banks were bailed out for their irresponsible behavior. At least the Big Banks paid the money back. Even here, the money was artificially created by the Fed and profit created by interest manipulation. Contract law was tossed out the door in the to big to fail world. Now the bondholders will once again see pennies on the dollar to bail out the city of Detroit and their irresponsible behavior. The house of cards will eventually come tumbling down. The Fed is postponing the inevitable with QE, but how much longer can this go on? Will we reach the final destination of rewarding failure, while punishing success. It seems to be the path we are traveling.

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hadenough

Jun-02-14 7:30 PM

Was the rally crucial? No way. All it did was give people something to do on a week night. We have to face the facts and take our heads out of the sand. The northern states are no longer conducive to factory jobs or manufacturing jobs. The area has outlived its ability to attract and keep factories and jobs. Besides taxes and utility rates add the union wages couple that with the slow down in the economy and it all down hill. Although NYS is one of the best states for welfare and other government handouts. But the glory days are long gone.

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Captain

Jun-02-14 12:56 PM

"The last I knew this is America and business and people have the right to make decisions."

Tell that to the NBA commissioner and fellow team owners.

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concerned

Jun-01-14 9:41 PM

judeye severance pay is usually set in the union contract if this union did not have provisions stipulated in their's they can blame their international for lack of advice it has nothing to do with the politicians.

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localresident

Jun-01-14 11:49 AM

Aaaaand notalways is in some strange alternate universe where a business in WNY is getting all sorts of breaks and assistance from the state government. Better lay off the pipe, buddy.

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commentor

Jun-01-14 9:57 AM

Rally was a complete waste of time. In the end it will accomplish nothing. ConAgra will do nothing more than it planned to do initially. Time will prove me correct and I will say I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!

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tjefson

Jun-01-14 9:40 AM

judeye, though I will not disagree with your response as I did with notalways, the only thing these politicians are concerned about is their loss of revenue. They don't care about the people or they would not be handing out raises to the public workers in these difficult times. I am sure all the libs see these raises as fair, but many in the private sector have not seen an increase in pay since BHO became President. I capitalize President for respect of the office, not the man. It has been just one scandal after another since the man was elected. At one time, I believe he would make a difference, but it did not take long to learn I had made a great misjudgement. Fortunately, my views on life saved me from voting for him.

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tjefson

Jun-01-14 9:31 AM

Yep, the 50K is not even half of Bolender's 120K annual pension. The last I knew this is America and business and people have the right to make decisions. The only way for NY state to keep a large business in the state is to cut special deals with them. The only middle class left are government employees who are oppressing the rest of what was the middle class with their incessant demands. Start to pay YOUR fair share then come talk about special favors and tax advantages. I am being kind with my words today because you really don't want to know what I think you are.

The wealthy have always created businesses that have provided jobs. I am not wealthy in a material sense, but I have the common sense to know who provides my bread and butter.

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notalways

Jun-01-14 8:59 AM

Just one more example of a company getting tax dollars and screwing the taxpayer. The sad part is this is common. A company gets tax dollars, tax breaks, deals on their utilities, and corporate welfare to come then they wait awhile and move to another state and do it all over again. All at the expense of the middle class. This is why the span between the rich and the middle class gets bigger all the time. Working class get a tiny raise that doesn't even off set the tax burden of paying the rich companies to come for awhile and then move on.

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tjefson

Jun-01-14 8:38 AM

judeye, you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Shrink the government. We got some of the highest taxes in the country. We got more public employees running around than Carter has pills. Then we got a Cadillac welfare system to boot. Then you got people who are not part of the tax dollar system trying to make ends meet. People and business are leaving for a reason and its very clear. Who works for who?

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judeye

Jun-01-14 7:13 AM

I so agree.

The rally will put increased pressure on our elected officials to push ConAgra to do the right thing by giving a good severance package and not putting conditions on what kind of company can come into that facility in the future.

Just as importantly, it demonstrates to the workers, our neighbors, friends and family, that they are not alone. We in the community do care and will be here to support them.

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