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Is U.S. getting big on ‘immoderation?’

July 17, 2014

Is it my imagination, or has American culture entered an era of backlash against the forces of excess? One can probably trace the underlying philosophy of “more” and “bigger” as inherently virtuous......

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tjefson

Jul-19-14 4:28 PM

"One can probably trace the underlying philosophy of “more” and “bigger” as inherently virtuous......" This must be in reference to public sector unions because that is where any growth has taken place. Possibly this is the NY State Teachers Union motto.

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tjefson

Jul-19-14 8:10 AM

Steiner, the government is the one prescribing this practice. These reverse Robin Hood bandits take from people who have less and give to people who have more than the one they took the money from. When we were children, this was known as stealing. Now we call it a redistribution. I have the privilege to pay for these progressives pensions when I have none of my own. Not only that, they claim the one's they steal from are the problem.

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Steiner

Jul-19-14 7:04 AM

hey tj, growing up i had relatives in the steel industry. every so many years the employee got 13 weeks off with pay. of course many took the summer time off. i remember these employees being called greedy for this by other non steel workers. I did not catch on til high school years that the teachers got 13 weeks off every year . Noone called them greedy. of course they wil say they work in those 13 weeks. but 13 weeks off is 13 weeks off.My parents did not explain much to us. they said figure it our for yourself as we do not want to prejudice you. we lived in a rural area , most neighbors were almost a mile away. that method, finding things out for oneself made steiner what he is today. it took a little longer, but once you saw the conclusion , it stuck.

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Steiner

Jul-19-14 6:41 AM

especially for the gals, see the book chasing icharus by gavin mortimer, p 20. eleanora sears, great great granddaughter of tom jefferson. born into money, athletic and hob nobbing with the aviation people. had the record for the first female passenger in an airplane in america. she had sense to see what the aviators were doing. in a few short years these aviators would be instrumnetal in WW1. She did NOT say or ask is this immoderation ? Read how america was 100 years ago, embracing science and change. they saw electricity, radio, airplane, steam engine, auto etc. they did NOT worry about is this too much ? the memory of europe and its aristocracy was still fresh in americas mind. today we have a different america. the govt itself blames america for the worlds problems. the LWV worries over cancer and running out of fresh water.america is declining cuz of these same people, the worriers.

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Steiner

Jul-19-14 6:26 AM

thanks Tj, i am always amazed that posters disagree with historical facts ! i post the book and the relevant stuff. People disagree with it. if the founders thought like the libs do now we would NOT have a country. caring and sharing have no place in govt. that is an invention by the libs, starting with the progressive movement. Why did they do this ? They saw the fabulous wealth that lay in america . the founders saw it too, but died before it cold realy grow to fruition. the founders fought the revolutionary war and that took a lot from them. the libs and progressives, after losing the civil war and then seeing the so called robber barons amass wealth and change america, well the libs just could not abide by that. they have waged war on business ever since. facts paul, facts. if it was not for private people america would have sunk, the govt did NOT build america. private folks did. obama is wrong on all counts.

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tjefson

Jul-18-14 4:15 PM

Why aren't these liberal teachers out volunteering their time to get the children caught up who have fallen behind. They have the entire summer off. Does it all boil down to the paycheck with this group. They blow a lot of hot air, but have short arms and deep pockets. Most of these teachers are some of the biggest tightwads I have ever met. Money is everything to this group. It is the peak of hypocracy for this group to talk about sharing. The union they belong to is the worst. I can't think of anything worse than using children for political and financial gain and that is exactly what this union does.

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tjefson

Jul-18-14 3:59 PM

Once again Steiner nails it and Christopher is somewhere out in left field, probably picking dandy lions. Another lefty article from an employee of the nanny state of NY. The problem with the liberals idea of sharing is they choose who I share my money with. Who are they to determine what is right and what is wrong? So the government grows and looks for more ways to generate revenue and redistribute it to who they deem fit. The one giving doesn't even get a thank you. Ironically, the government and the liberals demonize the ones who give the most. There is no gratitude by the recipient because it came from the faceless government. This week Jack Lew said lets raise the taxes on corporations. According to Lew, any corporation not will to pay more is economically unpatriotic. What? I guess not enough jobs have left the US.

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stangv8

Jul-18-14 11:29 AM

Sharing and caring is more our way of thinking? Problem with that is you're sharing money that doesn't belong to you. If you want to share, that's great but let it be your own pocketbook that's opened and not others who may not want to share.

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Steiner

Jul-18-14 6:55 AM

so paul, your mindset is not very different than the souths in washingtons time. see same book. george was afraid that if pushed to eliminate slavery the south would turn against the revolution against the brits. Yes ! See the mind set of the dumbacrat ? Slavery and stealing. no corporations. And dont forget those southern belles complaining after the south lost the war, they had noone to do their feet or nails. so all that morphed into what renne says. all with the help of obama and the liberal gals. and look at the condition of africa ! A basket case. this is called thinking paul, you and the libs should try it. its foreign to you now !

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Steiner

Jul-18-14 6:36 AM

Hey paul, more rants for you, but they are actual facts.George washington wanted victory so the West of america would be open to the colonists, namely him and his soon to be rich or already rich friends. judeye say greed.or caring and sharing as george did NOT like native americans. Washington did public work for private companies . See the book, ascent of george washington john ferling. so in pauls mind this would be a rant. now the gals in georges time could not vote, thank deity, so they could not protest and write articles saying greed, etc. america was made great by keeping the nervous disorder prone people, women out of the process. fact paul, not a rant. is this ok by you paul, let us know ! show us your ignorance !

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Steiner

Jul-18-14 6:26 AM

hey christopher, you have said nothing as usual. just a rant against me.so in your mind, historical facts are rants. only liberals like renne have facts. my quotes about corporations and what they did are true. i know it is hard to believe when you are a union stooge, corporations and the guys who run them made everything you take for granted. the libs offset would be the public schools. so by merely making a statement a mock like you do paul shows your extreme ignorance of history . Just like judey and the liberal gals that write all the time about the end of the world, greed and corporations. what else can a liberal say ? you really dont know anything other than a mock or a quip. i have given the books as reference and still you libs mock. you mock what happened ! is that stupidity or what ? thats a liberal !

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commentor

Jul-17-14 7:28 PM

.....and did you know that game show hosts make poor ministers?????

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American

Jul-17-14 5:08 PM

I don't think anyone really agrees with a lot of what he says but at the same time anyone agreeing with dudeye deserves a disagree.

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Christopher

Jul-17-14 2:00 PM

Not one but TWO disagrees on what I said about Steiner!!!? Wow!! Assuming one is Steiner himself, who else agrees with his rants? I dare you to admit it, lol!

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Christopher

Jul-17-14 11:15 AM

You just KNOW you've hit the nail squarely when you get multiple Steiner rants! Great job! If I hadn't even read the article, I'd have known it was a good one.

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Steiner

Jul-17-14 9:53 AM

caring and sharing for judeye, the corporations freed up labor from farms and made a whole lot of people wealthy. the gals meanwhile were, well, doing what they do best, next to nothing. thanks to corporations the whale and the forests wee saved. electricity made cheap and abundant. everyone got better in the process and judeye is caring and sharing, hey judey, thats why you gals only make 77c on a buck for guys, the guys did everything while you gals lived in la la land. my life saving chemical work from oil and gas wells saved 10,000 lives. if that aint sharing, caring i dont know what is. my mind power at work in the world. a part of steiner sharing,saving lives 24/7. while you judeye live in delusions. all based on guy chemists who shared their work with the world.many got rich too. we live better and judeye denies this.

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Steiner

Jul-17-14 9:43 AM

judeye, sharing and caring is great for relationships, but not by mandate from the govt. you just proved that women should not ever be allowed to vote without passing a science test. would jesus do that judeye ? Share and care ? i think not as he spoke in parables to all but his disciples. And there were no gal apostles. if there were, christianity would have sunk on the spot. christ said something about abundant living, john 10:10. Was he talking about diversity, a govt program or what judeye ? No, he was talking about the water into wine and the loaves and the fishes. all my comments on that you have missed. you are utterly ignorant of everything. Every day i read your comments and think to myself, noone can be that ignorant, but you post something and confirm my belief. women should never vote.

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Steiner

Jul-17-14 9:32 AM

we know it is bad when i read that the govt wants talking grocery shopping carts to tell us what food to buy ! is there no end to the govt in our lives ? from light bulbs to shopping carts , cars etc, the govt is there.

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judeye

Jul-17-14 9:11 AM

Remember the bumper sticker of the eighties..."He who dies with the most toys wins"?

Hmm for some reason Steiner I do not think a liberal made that bumper sticker. Sharing and Caring is more our way of thinking.

Great article once again Renee.

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Steiner

Jul-17-14 8:49 AM

now renee, to disagree with the lib is met with cries of foxnews and greed ! thats the liberal science. i see it in the gals tracts against oil and gas. as if women did anything in that industry or even knew how important it is. the solution to the problem is simple. get women and liberals out of the political process. they are too stupid to understand anything technical. why the gals want their birth control paid for by someone else after saying our bodies our selves ! so when we have a prez who says you did not build that and dismantles what made america great, we will have exactly what you describe. shame over america. not me. men made america great, not liberals and not women. maybe women could vote if they passed some sort of science test. to let them vote willy nilly is a disaster . the end of the world you know.

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Steiner

Jul-17-14 8:38 AM

hey renee, you dont know what happened ? the backlash against the forces of so called excess ? let me tell you. women and liberals entered into american politics such as never before. we hear constant cries about the end of the world due to mans activities from the mentally ill people, women and liberals. both groups of people suffer from a near total lack of science knowledge. there have been several articles on these pages about the dangers of fracking, co2, etc ,etc. all of them delusions, but liberals live in delusions. education costs more you say. who runs education in the country renee ? Why its liberals ! ever hear of them ? when liberals raise prices its considered a reduction or they are helping the poor. education has skyrocketd faster in price than energy or any other thing. but only corporations are greedy.the govt is a nanny now and that aint a coincidence with gals voting.

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