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Responsibility falls on board

August 24, 2014

People from this community, support your Brooks Hospital union workers....

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Captain

Aug-26-14 5:41 PM

I don't believe the Carriage House closing is due workers earning too much. I think it has more to do with NYS taxes, utility costs, workman's comp rates, NYS regs, etc. All factors that the union clearly has no control over.

commentor, tj, Phil, etc all believe that BMH workers should be grateful to have a job? They basically support the philosophy: "Do what you're told and don't complain!" Thank God there were lots of people who disagreed w/this way of thinking and fought against the many forms of injustice they faced, otherwise, we could be speaking a different language today. Dishonorable.

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commentor

Aug-25-14 9:24 AM

I don't think anyone is excusing management for it's bad spending. But given the past history of unions and what they are demanding today they aren't facing reality. Today you are lucky to have a job. Ask the 400 plus Carriage workers. Ask them what they would be willing to do to keep their jobs. If your business is millions in the hole they can't give you a raise, no matter the reason they are there. Unless you can live without your job you should be negotiating for what will keep the business open and hope in the future you can get that raise.

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commentor

Aug-25-14 9:18 AM

What is Lawrence consulting on....How to destroy a business or How not to run a business or how to go bankrupt quickly or how to be a dumb a ss manager and on and on.

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DKexpat

Aug-25-14 9:06 AM

What was that bank in Buffalo, years back, that went under during the S&L crisis? Empire Savings Bank? I seem to recall the CEO was purchasing expensive artwork for his office right up to the time the feds walked in and padlocked everything.

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Captain

Aug-24-14 3:10 PM

When Sammi bought AL Tech, they too participated in highly questionable methods of spending, much like BMH. Sammi spent boatloads of money on many things that clearly had no benefit or relevance whatsoever in improving operations at the Dunkirk plant. Lending institutions were willing to approve loans involving things like memberships to private clubs, purchasing fast food chains, etc. The money borrowed was secured by AL Tech assets, which were eventually frozen after Sammi filed bankruptcy.

As is the norm around here, the public immediately blamed the union and excused mgmt. Union members once AGAIN paid the price for horrible managing by agreeing to MORE concessions just to keep their jobs. Maybe the standard of living in DK will improve someday once certain morons in this city stop supporting lower wages for private workers, but I doubt it.

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monybagz

Aug-24-14 2:27 PM

It maybe just a rumor, but I heard Jonathan Lawrence is now a consultant!!!!!!!!!!!!

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tjefson

Aug-24-14 1:26 PM

Even if everything is true the pro-union people say it does not change the situation. Unless you have a plan to show a profit, an increase in pay is liking beating a dead horse. What is so hard to understand about there is no money. You can't give away what you don't have. If anything a wage reduction is in order. Be thankful you have a job. I am at a loss and perplexed by the union mentality.

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commentor

Aug-24-14 1:05 PM

Lawrence worst thing to ever happen to BMH. I don't know what authority the Board has. Are they just advisory or do they approve all spending? If they have authority to approve spending then they should all be tossed off immediately for allowing Lawrence to waste like he did and put the hospital in jeopardy. Destroy and walk away. Not right.

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tjefson

Aug-24-14 11:56 AM

Captain, please enlighten me if you have additional information, but isn't this the loss that was reported? Are these numbers fictitious? As I said, there is some credence to this opinion piece, but it does not go to the heart of the matter. The bottom line, something many people choose to ignore, is we are on a unsustainable path everywhere we see unions. Coincidence? Hardly, they are bargaining themselves out of existence in the private sector and are being propped up in the public sector by gouging the taxpayers.

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monybagz

Aug-24-14 11:06 AM

congrats to you Sue, although we sometimes don't see eye to eye, you hit the nail on the head! I wish the board or management would just come clean with the public & employees and tell them what their intentions are for Brooks! it's a sad state of affairs what happened to that hospital in such a short period of time!

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Captain

Aug-24-14 10:44 AM

"If memory serves me, the hospital is losing on average 2.5 to 3 millions dollars a year."

What a coincidence!!! People around here must be infatuated w/that number. Repeat it enough times, and the public will turn on the employees and demand it be sold. What? BMH is privately owned? Oh well, that doesn't matter, it's still the union's fault.

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tjefson

Aug-24-14 10:18 AM

Though there is some gravity in this rant, it still does not address the problem of making the hospital profitable and able to stand on its own 2 feet. If memory serves me, the hospital is losing on average 2.5 to 3 millions dollars a year. I hardly believe the areas you mention even remotely come close to this number. However, we can agree that Chautauqua County School System would be wise to read your letter and take a look in the mirror. You see they are able to continue business as usual because they are subsidized by tax dollars from the state and are breaking the backs of property owners in the county. The system is flawed to say the least.

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Captain

Aug-24-14 9:22 AM

Yeah, I hear ya, PC. Rush, Hannity, O'reilly, and many others have all learned quickly how to get rich! Disagreeing is great for ratings, AND it draws BIG advertising $$$, which provides the lucrative contracts for these "entertainers." These guys operate much like televangelists. The audience is still being duped, and the advertisers knowingly and willfully spend their advertising money to target potential customers. The dupes are being played and are too ignorant to know it.

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Christopher

Aug-24-14 7:59 AM

Don't base your reply on the posters of these pages, Captain. They THINK they represent the entire area, they don't, not even close. I know a few that are standard jokes at many tables and settings. It's like looking for any contrary positions or beliefs in a Rush Limbaugh audience. And much like that scene, most in Rush Limbaugh's sphere actually believe they're in the majority.

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Captain

Aug-24-14 7:13 AM

WAY TO GO, SUSAN!!! As a former MANAGER (NOT a union worker) at BMS, I believe you just knocked the snot out of them w/this letter! Thanks for being so truthful, though I doubt it'll make any difference or change the minds of the many anti-union morons who live here.

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