rumblefish...you ask why we are addressing an appraisal rather than the residents of the CC?
Duh...because that is what the poll question asked. Just responding to the specific question.
Who told you our taxes would double if the CC is not sold? Have you not bothered to ever read the CGR report? At most our taxes would go up about $10 A YEAR. I will gladly pay your portion if you think that is too much to care for those in our County who no longer can care for themselves.
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PhilJulian...would you tell me of any service this County operates that is breaking even WITHOUT any tax dollars? How about any road work, dredging of the lakes, schools, etc? Which ones are breaking even without taking one dime in tax dollars?
Hmm...none of them...
So why start with the CC that after we get the IGT funds does actually operate on a SURPLUS.
Why should we take tax dollars to say..clean Chautauqua Lake? Why not just leave it to free enterprise. Make those who live and use the lake pay huge fees. Why should I have to pay for something I rarely use?
Recreation more important than care of our most vulnerable citizens in their time of need?
Where in the County budget is the expense for the CC? I would like to look at those figures myself.
While we are on it, why no one concerned with all the money spent on an idle gas well? And yet up in arms regarding money spent caring for our fellow citizens?
for whoever dislikes my comment, you dont have friends or family members who work at the county home. you dont have family who are residents at the county home. so you know NOTHING about what is going on inside there. so you cant talk
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i am against the sell of the home and we are doing this all backwards. we dont need to sell the home, we need to eliminate the waste at the home. by waste i mean there are like 5 people in charge getting paid almost triple didgits. only one person needs to be in charge. plus the house next door, rent it out! for people who do want it sold, its funny if they think their taxes will stay the same or go down. not gonna happen people! the price of everything in life is going up. if this place becomes private, people will have to pay out of pocket for a room. thats really expensive and i know i wouldnt have the cash. where is everyone going to go? for the people who dont want it sold, we need to RIOT! nothing will get done by complaining on facebook or the observer. if other countries dont like their leader, they RIOT! then things get done. God help us all
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When VestraCare "negotiated" the contract for the proposed purchase of the CH...did the County Exec just accept his offer or did he make a counter offer? I thought it was customary when making an offer on property to submit a low bid expecting the owner to come back with a higher price...this is what is called negotiations. Was there any negotiations at all or did Mr. Horrigan accept the bid as-is? This would be interesting to know. It appears that VestraCare gave us a "low ball" bid...which SHOULD have insulted not just Horrigan but the Legislature as well.
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Just turn it into small apartments, I need a small place and it' on some beautiful land.s
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DK did you not see that the employees petitioned to negotiate a new contract? These individuals did this outside of the union. Do you think the CE met with them to discuss this?
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ramblefish, please don’t shout. Ask another question like “How many would want the CHH still under county control if they busted the union and brought wages/benefits more in line with the private sector?"
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Rumblefish you keep making this ridiculous statement. As convinced as you are that the home should be sold even you must recognize that this claim is absurd!
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HOW MANY OF YOU BLEEDING HEARTS WOULD STILL WANT THE CCH TO BE UNDER COUNTY OWNERSHIP IF IT MEANT PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR ALL COUNTY PROPERTY TO DOUBLE TO PAY FOR HOME OPERATION, WE SUSPECT THAT MAJORITY OF TAX PAYERS WOULD NOT GO FOR THAT PLAN
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How ridiculous some of the posters are when they actually think your county taxes would double on this? How many times have you heard me say my City taxes are almost double to my county? Stupid remarks!
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Well all I can say is you betcha!Common sense would tell one to do this even BEFORE the talk of sale ever began. Really shows the stupidity of our elected officials there AND everywhere on things like this...always forgetting the obvious. Would you ever not do this on your own home?
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Property appraisals are only a guide and in the final analysis they are worthless because a property is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Commercial property is frequently evaluated on the basis of annual profits. Since the home is losing money without taxpayer assistance, the property has little if any commercial value. If the home were properly managed in the past it would be breaking even or generating a profit and the value would be substantially higher. Right now $16 million looks pretty good. The new owners are taking a risk but I believe it can be successful if they expand services to include assisted living accomodations to compliment the current skilled nursing operation.
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SELL SELL SELL
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something else to "chew" on how about a poll question asking "how many property owners would be ok with the "doubling" of property tax rate to keep home in county control then everyone would see who is talking with their hearts and who is talking with their wallets
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and besides an "appraisal" is for the benefit of a lending institution to determine property worth to justify loan ammount
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the bleeding hearts will throw anything in the way to block the sale shamefully, it was clients, now it's an appraisal, we would think that "possible" buyers have had their people do an "appraisal" already, get real people buyers just don't pull a "number" out of a hat
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County Executive needs to take a "cue" from the King .........bypass the legislature and sell with executive order.......!
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The property has one USE- a skilled care facility. It would cost millions to reconfigure the building and it would be a teardown for anything else. SELL IT NOW!
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sure, keep finding ways for delays to placate the commie run union.
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Total waste of time. The deal is on the table and it's a half mil less than it was originally. They aren't going to pay any more. It's worth what you can get for it. All the appraisals in the world aren't going to change that. This isn't some prime valuable property. It's a business losing money. It's a white elephant. It's been on the market and can only get two interested buyers. Wake up and face reality!!
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Note "before it is sold". Have the legislation already voted to sell?
Like any real estate action, of course it must be appraised before a sale. Only someone ignorant would sell a piece of real estate without first getting an appraisal.
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