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Educational changes

Drop in enrollment, state funding forcing schools to do things differently

April 7, 2013

By NICOLE GUGINO OBSERVER Assistant News Editor Times have changed in New York state and especially in Chautauqua County over the past several years. With it, schools must change as well....

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STUPADASO

Apr-09-13 3:01 PM

THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE A SUPERINDENTENT FOR THE JAMESTOWN AREA SCHOOLS, AND ONE FOR ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY. ANOTHER HUGE PROBLEM IS THE STUPID PENSIONS. I SAY ALL STATE EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE MOVED TO A 403B ACCOUNT WHERE THEY ARE GIVEN 10% OF THEIR SALARY TO INVEST IN THAT 403B ANY WAY THEY WANT AND THAT IS ALL THEY GET, JUST LIKE SOME IN THE REAL WORLD. THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE "PENSIONS" FOR ANY ONE PAID WITH TAXPAYER MONEY!

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-08-13 11:27 PM

A few points:

1. Don't know her, never met her. I'm not attacking her. I'm attacking the foolishness of paying someone $123,600 to run a school with fewer than 300 K thru 12 students. The same could be said about Clymer, Forestville, Sherman, Frewsberg, Brocton etc.... It's absolutely stupid!!

2. You and I are more alike than you know. I also disdain the 17 superintendents in such a small county

3. You say it's just business when comparing the Ripley salary to others. Are you referring to all districts? Dunkirk, Jamestown, Fredonia etc...? If so then you must think that the owner of a tiny convenient store should make the same salary as the CEO of Walmart?

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RipleyResident

Apr-08-13 3:00 PM

Krause is 1 of 7 superintendents mentioned in the article, and looking at all the school district salaries, yes, she is on par. So do you just not like her? It's OK for other superintendents to make 6 figure salaries? If you want to be outraged about the fact that we have too much administration county wide, or that salaries of superintendents are higher than they should be, that's fine. But there is no reason to expect that the superintendent in Ripley should not be in the same salary range as others in the area, that is business.

BTW, Sissel made $137k in Westfield in 2012, and he left the district in 2011, which I can't quite figure out, but if you want to get irate about something, there is a good topic. And that was $33k more than the 2nd highest, for whatever that is worth.

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-08-13 2:02 PM

Also, she makes $20,000 more than the next highest salary in the district. $30,000 more than the third highest.

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-08-13 1:59 PM

RipleyResident, you could not be more wrong. Krause was quoted in the article which is why I singled her out. On par? What does that mean? That we should all sit back and take it? 250 STUDENTS IN RIPLEY!!!!! $123,600 salary!!!! SHAMEFUL....

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RipleyResident

Apr-08-13 9:50 AM

Krause's salary is on par with the rest in the county, pretty silly to single her out. Superintendents are not paid per student. Is there an opportunity to save in the administration? Yes, but again, we would need to have the state allow for that. Should Ripley pay the administrators less than the teachers? What would be the point of becoming an administrator then? They (should) put in longer hours than the teachers, and they should be compensated. To say Ripley should underpay because their enrollment is low would mean that Ripley wouldn't be able to attract quality people to the job.

Until districts are able to regionalize, this is the system that we have.

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Escapee

Apr-07-13 10:33 PM

A quote from the article”… Pretty much anything we can do to save some dollars we are going to try," Dunkirk Superintendent Gary Cerne said. …”. That must be a different Superintendent Gary Cerne than the one that just got done handing out raises.

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DKexpat

Apr-07-13 9:46 PM

Agree with HaveA. Come to VA - my county-wide district has 70,000 students...and one superintendent of schools - - at a savings of a couple of million dollars per year - per year - over what Chau Cty taxpayers spend for all their supers.

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-07-13 9:38 PM

Ms. Krause (Ripley superintendent), would you like to comment on your $123,600 salary for the 2012 school year? You are stealing a paycheck if you ask me. Your entire district has less than 300 students. What a joke!!!

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Chuck392

Apr-07-13 2:02 PM

One of the biggest roadblocks in school mergers is the State of New York. I suspect Ripley and Chautauqua Lake would merge if they could, but the State won't permit it because the districts do not touch.

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ChautauquaSkier

Apr-07-13 1:23 PM

I was thinking about this issue yesterday, prior to seeing this article.

I wonder how long it will be before the NY State school districts will be structured by County, such as many other states.

I believe this will happen eventually, but it will likely take continued high property taxes, foreclosures, loss of businesses, and organized groups of concerned citizens to make this happen.

Despite charter schools, online learning, home-schooling, etc., public schools are very relevant and have a meaningful place in society.

How they will adapt to the changing economic realities in this region remains to be seen.

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PhilJulian

Apr-07-13 10:23 AM

Declining enrollments are just a symtom of the real problem. It costs too much to live and conduct business in Chautauqua County. Consolidating all school administrative functions at the county level would be a good place to start. The same should be done in government.

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RipleyResident

Apr-07-13 9:00 AM

commentator, who is "they"? Are you talking about the state passing the law that would allow regional schools? The entire county merging is a ridiculous concept, in the last 20 years of all the merger votes, only 1 has passed, and those are due to the communities. No way will every community approve a merge when we can barely get 2 to agree. Regional schools are the only practical answer, but lawmakers won't take the appropriate action.

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commentor

Apr-07-13 8:48 AM

Until they merge the entire County and cut administration and change salary and benefit structure they are only spinning their wheels and avoiding the obvious. They are putting band-aids on major wounds.

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DKexpat

Apr-07-13 8:17 AM

How about state legislators showing a little courage and removing roadblocks in re regionalism and mergers?

For districts with 300-400 students to have a a top-to-bottom layer of administration - - notice how most of their quotes were about "sharing" rather than "consolidating/merging."

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