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Is sale of Home the beginning?

March 6, 2014

Editor, OBSERVER: The $16 million deal approved last week by our legislators has impoverished our county and stripped us of an institution, which stood by its origins as a symbol of bipartisanship......

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Captain

Mar-07-14 3:53 PM

A state appointed control board would suit me fine, just like they did in Erie Co. Before this can happen though, the CCLeg would have to literally run Chaut Co into the ground. Getting rid of assets that could conceivably produce surpluses while simultaneously giving pay raises to departments that never will is going in that direction. If concessions were necessary, equitable sacrifices for ALL county workers (both union & salary) should've been pursued, not just against CCH union workers, but that would've been too risky, politically speaking. Besides, the public had already accepted all the misinformation being spewed as true by the administration and this newspaper.

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DarkStar

Mar-07-14 1:16 PM

Captain,

So you say our political leaders are failures, and yet you think we should have allowed them to continue to run the CCH, why exactly do you think that failures she be left in charge of a place such as that?

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Captain

Mar-06-14 9:46 PM

If you believe vindication means to: "...wish a pox on the ones who backed support, their loved ones and friends..." that's your problem.

Instead of working to resolve a serious issue and protect a valuable amenity, it's people like you who help destroy what we have for personal reasons. As I said, the results speak for themselves. I don't need to convince anyone who's right or wrong b/c the area's record of failed leadership and steady economic decline and population loss is enough evidence for anyone wanting to reach their own conclusions.

You view the sale as a "victory" and I simply can't/don't comprehend this type of backward thinking. If you ever think about running for office, believe me, you'd fit right in.

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tjefson

Mar-06-14 7:13 PM

The last local election was a referendum vote against the public sector leaches. Your selfish ambition created this mess. I am so sick of the "we care" people who have indebted their neighbors because of the increased tax burden to pay for their extraordinary compensation, over generous benefits and gold plated pensions. You are all a bunch of crooks. Lets hope as much as possible is turned over to the private sector. I am tired of supporting this glamorized welfare system.

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rumblefish

Mar-06-14 6:37 PM

we wonder if the "forecasters" of the demise and employment lose at home, we wonder if the "seers" would revel the winning numbers for the next lottery drawing, we could use the heads up, to cash in

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rumblefish

Mar-06-14 6:27 PM

if keeping the home under public control. then where were the community leaders from, Dunkirk, Fredonia, etc we don't recall the mayors of either actively campaigning against sale, or even offering a solution, could it be "sale" wasn't that important to either one

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rumblefish

Mar-06-14 6:21 PM

real mature reasoning, supporter of not selling home, wishes a pox on the ones who backed support, their loved ones and friends, it's almost as sad as the women who put a curse on the Bills when they moved training camp out of FSU, but as we remember the area leaders did noting to persuade the bills not to move

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Captain

Mar-06-14 6:01 PM

Intentionally refusing to apply for IGT funds this past year was bad enough. It would've cut the home's annual deficit in half! Even the new owner implied this was financially irresponsible. What was even more revealing was Edwards' & Hellwig's blatant defiance to impose the cost-saving measures outlined TWICE in TWO separate CRG audits. This speaks volumes!

DS asks why the same legislators keep getting re-elected, but doesn't ask why sale proponents chose to ignore Edwards' agenda, the CCLeg's total disregard for the price this agenda cost, failing in their duty to improve the balance sheet over the last 5 yrs. Proponents never even questioned why the CCLeg allowed this to continue for so long, all they knew was they ALL wanted it sold. The poor numbers kept attracting public support.

We'll never agree on this issue, so my vindication is knowing that most proponents WILL have family members who'll need such services in the future.

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Captain

Mar-06-14 5:07 PM

I don't support them! I can't stand hypocritical pols who say one thing, do the opposite, and defend both! They are phonies w/o integrity or a moral conscience. It was a good question DarkStar, and I believe the results speak for themselves.

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DarkStar

Mar-06-14 2:05 PM

I'm seen this loan balance mention several times and how it made the sale a wash, but it overlooks that not only was the County Home loosing money, but the taxpayer was also saddled with paying back a multimillion dollar loan as well as ultimately being responsible for any deficit the home ran.

Add to this the fact that the ACA has cut reimbursements for care across the board and deficit the home had would only get worse, as they received less and less in payment from the Washington and Albany.

Finally, I will ask one question those here who opposed to selling the home have consistently refused to answer over the last two years. If our County leaders are so inept, why exactly would you support allowing them to continue to run the CCH?

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Captain

Mar-06-14 11:55 AM

Thank you Dr Mannino! No doubt w/the county home gone, the CCLeg is now free of all "hassles" associated with overseeing its operations. Yes, the CCLeg viewed the home as simply a "headache." They were only interested in making their jobs easier rather than put in the necessary effort to make sure area seniors were properly cared for.

The CCLeg willingly accepted a major loss on this facility, considering the millions of dollars that taxpayers invested in it over the years, and especially when there wasn't any urgency to sell. I'm convinced a surplus (revenue/profit) could've easily been achieved now that Edwards & Hellwig are no longer making sure the home operates in the most costly manner, for the sole purpose of gaining public support to sell. Again, selfish motives prevailed, and I firmly believe county residents will rue the day they supported this sale. They may not admit it, but they'll certainly regret it.

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rumblefish

Mar-06-14 10:49 AM

we will go one step father, exchange the governments between Jamestown and Dunkirk, and with in one term, Dunkirk would be moving forward and prospering, and Jamestown would be moving in the other direction a steady spiral down, what is necessary is the whole county to work together for the good of all, but we won't hold our breath in hopes of that happening

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rumblefish

Mar-06-14 10:45 AM

taking this issue further, people from this end of the county need to under stand, the selling of CCH is not the reason for the demise of north county, people need to look at how government in north county operates, or should we say doesn't operate, blaming south county for north county "ineptness" is as "ludicrous" as county continued running a health care business

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rumblefish

Mar-06-14 10:36 AM

here we go again, "ground hog day" revisited, again and again and again rash statements about the future of the home and employees with out concrete proof, fact is government does not belong in private enterprise and private enterprise does not belong in government, but the "density of some" will never end

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Marcia

Mar-06-14 10:14 AM

You are totally correct. This comes from the people who want to turn everything over to profit makers. Who do not think government should provide services for their citizens. A sad commentary in the 21st century. Rather like going back to the middle ages.

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commentor

Mar-06-14 9:12 AM

What's next....hopefully the Airports.

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Christopher

Mar-06-14 8:41 AM

This was politics, no more, no less, from day one. Sadly, nothing more than a stupid split between not only political parties, but between different ends of the county. And hundreds of people will be out of work for no discernible gain.

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